Episode 31: "Did You Actually Rest This Summer?"
Teacher summer burnout is real — and in this season opener of Comprehend THIS!, Scott and cohost Pamela Parks get honest about why teachers can't seem to actually rest over the summer. If you've ever called a full planning day "taking it easy," this conversation about rest, guilt, and protecting your time off is exactly where you need to be.
Scott sits down with cohost Pamela Parks for the Season 4 opener, and the topic is one teachers are quietly terrible at: stopping. Pamela spent years as a professional translator before becoming a world language teacher, which means she's had two careers built around never being off the clock and a lot of practice pretending that's fine. Together they get into teacher summer burnout, the difference between actually resting and "resting," and what a real permission slip for the off-season looks like. No inspiration posters. Just two tired teachers being honest.
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Transcript
Hello everybody and welcome to season 4.
Speaker:We are starting on
Speaker:episode 31. We welcome you
Speaker:at the beginning of summer and we're
Speaker:starting our season 4. We
Speaker:just took a month off as
Speaker:a break. So let's go ahead and get
Speaker:started. It's week one of
Speaker:summer and you promise yourself
Speaker:you'd rest. So why is there a half
Speaker:revised unit open on your
Speaker:laptop right now? I'm Scott
Speaker:and I'm joined by co-host Pamela Parks.
Speaker:Before Pamela taught world
Speaker:language, she spent years
Speaker:working as a professional translator, two
Speaker:careers built entirely around never quite
Speaker:being off the clock. She knows this
Speaker:conversation personally. Plus
Speaker:she's still in school. She's
Speaker:not out yet. Today we're getting into the
Speaker:thing teachers are
Speaker:weirdly bad at. Stopping.
Speaker:The lie you tell yourself on the last
Speaker:day, the guilt of sitting
Speaker:still and the recharging
Speaker:that somehow looks suspiciously like
Speaker:work. If you've ever
Speaker:looked up from your laptop
Speaker:in August and thought, wait, when did I
Speaker:stop having a summer?
Speaker:This one's for you. Pop
Speaker:quiz. Are your assessments align with
Speaker:what you're actually
Speaker:teaching? No? Cool. Let's
Speaker:fix that. The assessment Academy is 10
Speaker:prerecorded lessons that
Speaker:help you ditch the scantrons
Speaker:and actually assess what matters like
Speaker:proficiency, performance,
Speaker:and whether your students are
Speaker:still breathing by Friday. Watch on your
Speaker:time as many times as
Speaker:you want for a whole year
Speaker:and know there's not a single lesson
Speaker:about bubble sheets or
Speaker:grading 72 essays at 11 p.m.
Speaker:You're welcome. Head over to mm.us slash
Speaker:Academy and start
Speaker:assessing like you actually
Speaker:mean it. Welcome to comprehend this real
Speaker:talk for real language
Speaker:teachers. No drills, no
Speaker:dry theory, just honest stories,
Speaker:practical ideas, and a
Speaker:reminder you're not alone. Die
Speaker:trenches. Let's dive in. Hello and
Speaker:welcome Pamela back.
Speaker:She's been upgraded for season
Speaker:four to a co host, so we appreciate her
Speaker:joining us. Love being
Speaker:here. Yeah, she's, uh, she
Speaker:was expressing to me before we started
Speaker:how much she missed us.
Speaker:I was enjoying my little
Speaker:month of a break for a little bit, doing
Speaker:other things, but I do I
Speaker:miss my, my, our conversations
Speaker:that we have on Sundays. It's a great
Speaker:little conversation and
Speaker:we get out there for other
Speaker:teachers. Let me advertise for season
Speaker:four. We are looking for
Speaker:more, um, to be a guest
Speaker:host with Pamela and I. I mean, let me
Speaker:put this so much fun.
Speaker:It's so easy. You just come
Speaker:and chat with us. There's no hard work
Speaker:involved and you come away with some
Speaker:great ideas. Absolutely.
Speaker:She's not wrong. Um, if you want to join
Speaker:us, we've got, um, you
Speaker:can go to the link here at
Speaker:mm.us slash podcast. There really is
Speaker:nothing to it. It's just
Speaker:showing up and we're just having a
Speaker:conversation. Yeah, we have some talking
Speaker:points. Uh, we rarely
Speaker:stick to them strictly. So, uh,
Speaker:it's kind of a jumping off point. Um, but
Speaker:it's just a conversation
Speaker:you'd have with other teachers
Speaker:at the lunch or copy machine or anything
Speaker:like that. So we'd love
Speaker:to have you with us. Um, we
Speaker:already have a couple of people signed up
Speaker:already. Uh, shout out to my
Speaker:friend Mary who's going to be
Speaker:joining us. Mary Hooker. Hi. Yes, I saw
Speaker:her up there. Um, and we've
Speaker:got a couple other people up
Speaker:there too. So welcome, welcome. You can
Speaker:also sign up for more than
Speaker:one. So we've got 10 episodes
Speaker:coming up that you can sign up for. The
Speaker:topics are all listed on that
Speaker:website. So please do join us
Speaker:because it is, uh, it's a fun time and
Speaker:the more voices we can have and more
Speaker:experience, especially
Speaker:from lesser taught languages, which
Speaker:unfortunately now is French and German as
Speaker:well. Um, pretty much
Speaker:it's Spanish and Mandarin are the two big
Speaker:ones right now. Um,
Speaker:everything else is kind of lesser
Speaker:taught. So if you've got a different
Speaker:perspective, we'd love to
Speaker:hear it. And so you're welcome to
Speaker:join us by going to that link. It's in
Speaker:the chat and I just posted
Speaker:up. I'll only put it back up on
Speaker:the screen so we can do that. And you
Speaker:don't have to be an expert because like
Speaker:today I'm going to be
Speaker:taking copious notes because this is,
Speaker:this is the, the whole, this, this is
Speaker:what I really need to work
Speaker:on today's episode. Yeah. And I'm with
Speaker:Pamela here because today's
Speaker:we're talking about, you know,
Speaker:actually taking our break. We get that
Speaker:break and for most of us,
Speaker:it's not a paid break. People
Speaker:think we get paid, but you get a choice,
Speaker:at least in California, you
Speaker:get a choice whether you want
Speaker:your check to come in 10 monthly
Speaker:increments or if you want it
Speaker:in 12, your pay doesn't change.
Speaker:So you don't, we don't get paid for the
Speaker:holidays. We just either
Speaker:spread it out. So that the yearly
Speaker:break is going to be a good break. And so we're going to have to get some work done in there.
Speaker:So we shouldn't be working. We should, we
Speaker:do need that recharge in
Speaker:there. And for some of us,
Speaker:especially like I know for myself, we
Speaker:have to mitigate with
Speaker:what has to get done as well.
Speaker:So you want to have some of that break
Speaker:because I'm switching
Speaker:schools this year, this summer.
Speaker:So I have got a new textbook to plan for.
Speaker:I have got a whole brand new class.
Speaker:It's both this. Oh, okay. I've heard of
Speaker:that. I've heard good things about it.
Speaker:And I've seen it and I got the tour of
Speaker:it. I haven't really
Speaker:delved into it yet. I do want
Speaker:to give myself a break because unlike
Speaker:Pamela, Pamela is still in
Speaker:school. I was out a week ago
Speaker:Thursday. So I just completed my first
Speaker:full week of freedom. So
Speaker:both of us, they got, they,
Speaker:they subscribed to both copies. There's a
Speaker:CI version and a grammar
Speaker:version, but they tend to
Speaker:use the grammar version more. So I'm
Speaker:going to look at both, see what I can get
Speaker:out of it and do that.
Speaker:But I need to mitigate taking that break
Speaker:because I do need that break.
Speaker:I need that refreshing break
Speaker:so that I'm not burnt out in September.
Speaker:Because we go back in August
Speaker:and I don't want to be burnt
Speaker:out already that first month. Plus it's a
Speaker:new brand new schedule
Speaker:I've never been on before.
Speaker:We're on an AB schedule, an odd even
Speaker:schedule, which I hate that
Speaker:schedule. Oh yeah. I hate that
Speaker:one. And I get to see my kids all year.
Speaker:So that could be a plus or
Speaker:minus because of my old school.
Speaker:Because you were doing the semester last
Speaker:time. I was doing the
Speaker:semester and I didn't think I
Speaker:like it. And I don't like it. But what I
Speaker:did like it is when I had
Speaker:those kids that drove you crazy,
Speaker:I knew I only had them till Christmas.
Speaker:And I got a, you know, I got done.
Speaker:But I've, I've been on block before year
Speaker:round block, like we're
Speaker:going to be on this one,
Speaker:but we had an ABC schedule. So C was
Speaker:Fridays where we met all of the kids. So
Speaker:we had catch up time.
Speaker:Oh, are you doing this thing where every
Speaker:week, like you have
Speaker:the A schedule on Monday,
Speaker:but then the next week the A schedule,
Speaker:oh, that's going to drive you insane.
Speaker:That drives me insane. Because I'll never
Speaker:know what day it is.
Speaker:Oh my gosh, I've seen my
Speaker:adults mess that up. Yeah.
Speaker:Kids they don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I
Speaker:always had what day is it?
Speaker:How many minutes are your
Speaker:class times then? 80 minutes.
Speaker:So I'm losing 10 minutes because my cold
Speaker:school we did, we were
Speaker:a full hour and a half.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:I'm losing about 10 minutes, which is not
Speaker:too bad because that's about
Speaker:when they start falling off
Speaker:anyway. Yeah.
Speaker:But the AB schedule is going to kill me
Speaker:because when I did the
Speaker:year round block, we were ABC.
Speaker:So Monday, the first day of the week was
Speaker:always a day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Speaker:And then if we lost a day like from a
Speaker:holiday, like we didn't have a Monday or
Speaker:we didn't have a Friday.
Speaker:You got rid of the C, right?
Speaker:That was the C day that we lost.
Speaker:So we always started the week on an A
Speaker:day. And so now I've got to do
Speaker:my lesson plans as a two-week
Speaker:cycle. So it's a five-day cycle, five-day
Speaker:classes, but it takes
Speaker:two weeks to get. Yeah.
Speaker:So I need to wrap my head around that
Speaker:plan stuff and at least get
Speaker:a couple of weeks thought out
Speaker:before I start. But I haven't started
Speaker:doing that yet. I said,
Speaker:I'm going to start doing that
Speaker:towards July and not towards June. June
Speaker:is going to be my do stuff for me time.
Speaker:Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Speaker:Absolutely. And Pam only
Speaker:gets one week of summer.
Speaker:Yeah. Pretty much. So you said in the
Speaker:opening, you said you have,
Speaker:if you're the kind of teacher
Speaker:who has one lesson open right now, no, I
Speaker:have four open right now
Speaker:because I teach Spanish
Speaker:and French and Japanese. And my classes
Speaker:are packed this year. I have
Speaker:39 students in my French one
Speaker:class and 35 in one of my Spanish
Speaker:classes. And I mean, my classes are
Speaker:packed because the district
Speaker:was like, we need you to take on one
Speaker:section of junior English.
Speaker:Okay. So I've got junior English
Speaker:open too. Now I just found out I'm going
Speaker:to be teaching. They're
Speaker:like, Oh, I thought, I thought
Speaker:the whole teach, teach a section of
Speaker:junior English. I thought that was going
Speaker:to be one year. Okay.
Speaker:Turned into two years and now they need
Speaker:me again next year, but they
Speaker:said you're going to be doing
Speaker:freshman English. So now I got a reread
Speaker:to kill a mockingbird
Speaker:and I got a reread 1984.
Speaker:And I'm like, all my colleagues are
Speaker:saying, Oh, just stay five
Speaker:minutes ahead of the students.
Speaker:You'll be fine. I hate that. I did that
Speaker:my first year. I will never do that
Speaker:again. This is why I
Speaker:have gray hair people. Okay. I am, I need
Speaker:to know what I'm doing so
Speaker:that I can sleep at night.
Speaker:So I will, I will not, I'd rather spend a
Speaker:chunk of my summer
Speaker:knowing what I'm going to do
Speaker:than have to play catch up every single
Speaker:day of the school year.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely. That's,
Speaker:that was where I started last year
Speaker:because they gave me this new class
Speaker:called building foundations
Speaker:for success. And the lessons were all
Speaker:planned by, you know, the
Speaker:department chair of that,
Speaker:but she wouldn't release the lessons to
Speaker:me until like, I like to do
Speaker:my lessons on Thursdays. So I
Speaker:have my weekend free and she sent it to
Speaker:me on Friday. And I'm
Speaker:like, I don't know what I'm,
Speaker:I got to read through this and I got to
Speaker:make the lesson my own.
Speaker:And I'm doing this and like,
Speaker:I've got to know what I'm doing before I
Speaker:leave for the weekend. I
Speaker:need to know what I'm doing
Speaker:next week. Not just what I'm doing on
Speaker:Monday. I need to know on
Speaker:Monday through Friday. Because,
Speaker:you know, what, how the size that the
Speaker:teacher, the, what is, what is the exact
Speaker:phrasing for it? But,
Speaker:but basically the students, the students
Speaker:faith in that the teacher
Speaker:knows what they're talking
Speaker:about is really high on the Haddie effect
Speaker:size. Yeah. Right. Yeah,
Speaker:absolutely. So yeah, I'm with
Speaker:you. I can't do that. And you only be
Speaker:five minutes ahead.
Speaker:Cause I'm always feel like I
Speaker:on that treadmill and never get it off.
Speaker:Yes. And so that's more stressful to me
Speaker:than spending a couple of weeks in the
Speaker:summer deciding what's
Speaker:the angle? Like, okay, this,
Speaker:this last two years I had to teach the
Speaker:great Gatsby secretly.
Speaker:I hate the great Gatsby.
Speaker:I do. And I was like, how can I teach
Speaker:this in a legitimate way? If I hate it,
Speaker:I better find an angle that I like it at.
Speaker:Otherwise my students are
Speaker:never going to have that buy-in.
Speaker:Absolutely. So I had to spend some time
Speaker:thinking about that. So
Speaker:thank goodness, the silver lining
Speaker:for freshmen English is I never have to
Speaker:read the great Gatsby ever
Speaker:again. Yeah. And then my school
Speaker:did a great Gatsby party for that class
Speaker:that taught it, but I'm with you. That
Speaker:brings up something else
Speaker:that we don't usually talk about, but
Speaker:when people say they did this activity
Speaker:and they don't get a
Speaker:buy-in from it from the kids, it's
Speaker:because you don't buy into it. Like
Speaker:precisely. Yes. Because
Speaker:if you are not an avid reader, then
Speaker:silent reading is not
Speaker:going to work for you. Right.
Speaker:If you don't show them the enthusiasm of
Speaker:reading the books and
Speaker:enforcing the rules. Yeah.
Speaker:And then, you know, you don't let talking
Speaker:going on, you don't let
Speaker:them ask you questions. You're
Speaker:like, I'm reading too. Hold all questions
Speaker:till the end. Yep. Yep. If
Speaker:you don't do that. You are not
Speaker:reading papers, you are not getting
Speaker:ahead. You are sitting down
Speaker:and reading with your students.
Speaker:And then when you're done reading, you
Speaker:look up at your students
Speaker:say, oh, I hate that the
Speaker:timer went off. I'm at this really
Speaker:exciting point. And this is
Speaker:what's going on in my book.
Speaker:Yeah, absolutely. And it's not the or
Speaker:they say songs don't work for them
Speaker:because you don't buy
Speaker:into it. I tell them I am the worst
Speaker:singer in the world. I am. I sing and I
Speaker:dance to these songs as
Speaker:we going on. I get into it and then my
Speaker:kids get into it with me or at least
Speaker:they're laughing at me.
Speaker:Right. And you don't have to be a good
Speaker:singer to have songs in the
Speaker:class. Now, you just have to
Speaker:enjoy the song. And you have to buy in.
Speaker:If you don't buy in, then the
Speaker:kids aren't going to buy in.
Speaker:So 100 million percent. Yep. Yep. They'll
Speaker:know it if you're faking it.
Speaker:They know it if you're faking
Speaker:it and they're not going to get involved
Speaker:in it. And, you know, I
Speaker:don't have a lesson open yet
Speaker:because I said I'm not going to be doing
Speaker:my thing until the later
Speaker:part of July. But what I what's
Speaker:on my to do list for today is to create
Speaker:all my folders for the
Speaker:new year. That's a good idea
Speaker:because that'll keep you organized
Speaker:because I'm very organized.
Speaker:So I have for every year that I
Speaker:taught that Google Drive existed. I have,
Speaker:you know, an academic year.
Speaker:Right. So put it in there and I
Speaker:split it in my classes I teach. So I have
Speaker:folders in there and lots of stuff I
Speaker:guess copy over from
Speaker:previous year because a lot of the stuff
Speaker:is the same. You know, some
Speaker:of my support documents. But
Speaker:it helps me stay organized and I can
Speaker:always find what I'm looking
Speaker:for when I do that. So I need
Speaker:to do that on a clear mind and before and
Speaker:start building the stuff
Speaker:up for the school, the new
Speaker:school that I'm going to. So which I
Speaker:know, I don't know any of the culture at
Speaker:the school or anything
Speaker:other than it's 20 miles closer than my
Speaker:previous drive. That that is
Speaker:quite the perk. Yeah, I know
Speaker:on my last day of school, I was like, I
Speaker:don't have to make this drive
Speaker:anymore. I don't have to make
Speaker:this drive anymore. And it's it's not in
Speaker:the morning. It was not a
Speaker:bad drive. But on the way
Speaker:home, it was traffic bound. And I was
Speaker:like, it just stressed me. And it made me
Speaker:an irritable driver.
Speaker:Yeah, because even when I'm not driving
Speaker:on that drive, I'm like impatient
Speaker:everywhere else like
Speaker:move it. The light is green. Go. Because
Speaker:I was like, I want to
Speaker:get out of this damn car.
Speaker:Now, when you make your folders, are you
Speaker:making them by unit or are
Speaker:you making them by routine?
Speaker:Because I do I do kind of both because,
Speaker:you know, I know I've got a
Speaker:food unit or I know I've got
Speaker:a house unit or whatever. But, you know,
Speaker:there are certain things
Speaker:that I do every day to keep my
Speaker:sanity. It's like we're always going to
Speaker:start with some kind of calendar talk.
Speaker:We're always going to
Speaker:have a TPRS. We're always getting so I
Speaker:keep I organized by routine
Speaker:so that I can open for all
Speaker:of my disparate classes all at the same
Speaker:time. Do you do by routine or by unit?
Speaker:Neither. I'm weird. So I have a fight. I
Speaker:have it by year. So actually,
Speaker:it goes it goes in my school
Speaker:folder, which then goes into the school
Speaker:that I'm actually teaching
Speaker:in folder. Then it goes into a
Speaker:year folder. And then inside the year, it
Speaker:goes by prep. So Spanish
Speaker:one, Spanish two, Spanish three,
Speaker:I had BFFS last semester last year. So I
Speaker:have that in there inside each one. I
Speaker:have a template folder
Speaker:where I have my shells. I call them my
Speaker:little skeletons of my
Speaker:lessons that I do for each week.
Speaker:So I have it for every week of the school
Speaker:year, which includes the
Speaker:song I'm going to teach for
Speaker:that week, the morphe I'm going to teach
Speaker:that week, the stuff that's
Speaker:not going to change. It's not
Speaker:textbook specific. It's not unit
Speaker:specific. It's just I'm going to do this
Speaker:all the way through.
Speaker:So I have that. And then I have my
Speaker:collections of songs in another
Speaker:PowerPoint. Well, Google
Speaker:Slides. I have my collections of
Speaker:inspirations and another Google slide. I
Speaker:have all those in there.
Speaker:And then when I make my lessons, I don't
Speaker:plan on a lesson document. I plan on my
Speaker:Google Slides. So my Google Slides is my
Speaker:lesson plan. I don't duplicate it
Speaker:somewhere else. So it's
Speaker:got a nice little Google Doc that goes
Speaker:with it. And it's my thing. Yeah. So
Speaker:everything I'm going to
Speaker:do is on my plan. I do it by a week.
Speaker:Well, my new school is on an
Speaker:AB block. So it'll be a five day
Speaker:cycle, which will actually take two weeks
Speaker:to get through. Right. But
Speaker:I label it like Spanish one,
Speaker:week one. And then I have everything I'm
Speaker:doing in that day. So, you
Speaker:know, all those little things
Speaker:you talk with the routines that you do,
Speaker:they're already built in
Speaker:along the way. So my week one
Speaker:will have everything that I'm doing. I
Speaker:have to switch slides or anything.
Speaker:Everything's in that
Speaker:slide. Everything's on Google Slides for
Speaker:the whole week. Okay. So I
Speaker:just have to keep clicking down
Speaker:the thing because I don't know what I'm
Speaker:planning to do next. I don't know. Just
Speaker:click the next slide
Speaker:and it tells me what I'm doing. And I've
Speaker:got timers built into
Speaker:there. So if there's a timed
Speaker:activity, like if it's silent reading, I
Speaker:have timers built in so
Speaker:kids can see the timer. I can
Speaker:see the timer. It keeps us honest. Warm
Speaker:ups have timers in them. So
Speaker:it keeps us honest every time.
Speaker:And it keeps us on track. Now, sometimes
Speaker:time went away from us
Speaker:for one thing or another.
Speaker:So I can skip it. I'll just fast forward
Speaker:to the slides and go, I
Speaker:can skip this part of the,
Speaker:like sometimes calendar talk gets thrown
Speaker:away because something
Speaker:else came up. Or something
Speaker:lasted a little bit longer. I can throw
Speaker:that away because I know
Speaker:I'm doing it again tomorrow.
Speaker:It's not that big of a deal to miss it
Speaker:for one day. Whereas the
Speaker:other part of the lesson is
Speaker:more important. And then I just when I do
Speaker:my lesson planning, I take
Speaker:those shells that I created.
Speaker:And then I make my lesson inside of that.
Speaker:And so then I decide
Speaker:what kind of what's my
Speaker:main activity that I'm doing the main
Speaker:event. And then all the
Speaker:supplemental events have already
Speaker:been I have a schedule that I do them all
Speaker:in. So they're all there. I mean, my
Speaker:reflection questions,
Speaker:all that stuff is already pre built for
Speaker:the whole year. And I have
Speaker:them all in my little shells.
Speaker:So they're not going to change. So you
Speaker:just copy them into your weekly?
Speaker:Well, I just take my template, I make a
Speaker:duplicate of my template. And
Speaker:then I add my unit stuff right
Speaker:inside there. Okay. So it makes it really
Speaker:easy for me to do. And I
Speaker:had it my old school, I had it
Speaker:where I didn't have to change much,
Speaker:because I already had the
Speaker:units already kind of built out.
Speaker:But now I got a new school. So I got to
Speaker:make a whole new vocabulary
Speaker:list that take me some more
Speaker:time, new warm ups and all that kind of
Speaker:stuff. How many other
Speaker:Spanish teachers are there?
Speaker:I want to say three, maybe four. Oh, I
Speaker:can't remember. You said
Speaker:you said one other you're
Speaker:going to be doing only Españoluno. I
Speaker:think for the first year, I'm doing
Speaker:Spanish one, and then
Speaker:the culture unit, the culture class that
Speaker:I'm going to do. And so
Speaker:there's you're only working
Speaker:other, like how much do you have to march
Speaker:lockstep with the
Speaker:other person? I'm so glad.
Speaker:I can do whatever the heck I want. I'm
Speaker:the only Japanese teacher I can do
Speaker:whatever the heck I want.
Speaker:I want to force Spanish teachers, I have
Speaker:to march lockstep with
Speaker:them. And that kind of
Speaker:drives me crazy, because I like
Speaker:comprehensible input. And
Speaker:they're very much by the book.
Speaker:And so I, this is one thing that I
Speaker:really, really liked
Speaker:about it, because they said,
Speaker:we used to have to be lockstep, and we're
Speaker:not we don't have to be so much anymore.
Speaker:So the guy that I've been working at is
Speaker:very grammar, grammar,
Speaker:when I got in his room,
Speaker:they had all those little blank verb
Speaker:charts and a little with the
Speaker:slashes to fill them all. And
Speaker:I'm like, Oh, this, he goes, we live and
Speaker:die by the six boxes. I'm
Speaker:like, Oh, my God, really?
Speaker:How horrible. At least you put Vosothros
Speaker:in there, right? No,
Speaker:he left that one out.
Speaker:He says I go ask that they thought they
Speaker:go we don't teach that
Speaker:one, Mike, perfect. But
Speaker:but he said he was very he used to do. He
Speaker:used to do TPRS for like a year.
Speaker:So he's familiar with it. And he's very
Speaker:open to it. He said
Speaker:I'll be in their classroom,
Speaker:observing it and seeing how that's
Speaker:working. I'll be interested to hear when
Speaker:you when you find out
Speaker:from him. Why did he give it up then?
Speaker:Well, I think it was it was
Speaker:like he he's a very interesting
Speaker:teacher. He retired from the military as
Speaker:some high officer. And he taught
Speaker:languages in the military,
Speaker:but the old fashioned way, or I should
Speaker:say that the traditional way. And he
Speaker:taught that. So when he
Speaker:retired, he taught at a different school,
Speaker:the one right by my house
Speaker:over here, the high school.
Speaker:And he worked with a friend of mine, who
Speaker:was comprehensible
Speaker:input, and her whole team was
Speaker:comprehensible input. But he didn't get
Speaker:rehired for that position.
Speaker:It was a temporary position,
Speaker:and didn't get rehired when they had a
Speaker:full time. So he didn't
Speaker:really get a lot of experience with
Speaker:it. And part of the reason why that they
Speaker:didn't rehire him was
Speaker:because coming from the military,
Speaker:they didn't have a textbook yet. They
Speaker:were just starting out with
Speaker:comprehensible input.
Speaker:They had no, we're just like, this is the
Speaker:principles that we're
Speaker:going to go, you can
Speaker:teach what you need to teach. And we're
Speaker:kind of feeling it was
Speaker:going. He wasn't that way.
Speaker:He goes, Yeah, I am not a curriculum
Speaker:builder. He goes, I'm a curriculum
Speaker:follower. I'll do whatever
Speaker:you tell me to do. But I'm not a
Speaker:curriculum builder. And
Speaker:so that was the big kind of
Speaker:a lot of building in when you first start
Speaker:TPRS, you need to think
Speaker:about what are your frameworks
Speaker:of all your stories. And if your mind
Speaker:isn't in that path, that's
Speaker:a lot of work the first time
Speaker:you do it. Yeah, it is. So and that was
Speaker:what my first year
Speaker:teaching at my previous school was
Speaker:textbook. And I knew I wasn't going to do
Speaker:textbook, I'll teach what's in the
Speaker:textbook. But I'm not
Speaker:teaching the textbook. We never opened
Speaker:it. And I agree. My textbook
Speaker:was sitting on my chalk sill.
Speaker:So if anybody came in, like an
Speaker:administrator, there it
Speaker:is. There it is. There it is.
Speaker:My textbooks are on my free voluntary
Speaker:reading shelf. So if the
Speaker:students want to choose a textbook,
Speaker:they're allowed to choose a textbook. You
Speaker:know, it's funny in
Speaker:Vegas, when I taught in Vegas,
Speaker:they were TPRS. So but we had this
Speaker:textbook adoption. And we
Speaker:had to adopt a textbook. And
Speaker:so it was rarely the others is what they
Speaker:with a. That's the one
Speaker:we use. It's now tentico,
Speaker:but it's the same thing with updated
Speaker:pictures. Well, before, yeah,
Speaker:I had it. When I taught from
Speaker:the beginning, I had it was possible
Speaker:possible possible possible.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. Then it went to
Speaker:reality that is and now OK. Yeah. So
Speaker:anyway, we had this and the
Speaker:cost like $80,000 for them to buy all
Speaker:these books. Right. Yeah. And my
Speaker:department chair went to our
Speaker:principal, who our principal is really
Speaker:cool. She says, OK, look, let's be
Speaker:honest. We ain't going to
Speaker:yeah. And he's like, but the state law
Speaker:says every kid has to have a textbook.
Speaker:And she goes, correction. The state law
Speaker:says every kid must have a
Speaker:textbook available to them.
Speaker:Uh huh. OK. She goes one per class. So
Speaker:she goes, we could have one
Speaker:class set because she goes in
Speaker:all my years of teaching. I've never had
Speaker:30 kids all ask for a
Speaker:textbook to carry around with them.
Speaker:Yeah. So the class set and she goes, can
Speaker:we return? We haven't
Speaker:opened any of the boxes.
Speaker:Can we return the rest of them and then
Speaker:use the money as department money for
Speaker:trainings and other things like that? And
Speaker:he goes, beautiful. He
Speaker:said, OK, here's what we can do.
Speaker:He said, OK, we'll go ahead and take the
Speaker:class sets and return
Speaker:the rest of the books.
Speaker:He goes, you can have half of the refund
Speaker:and the other half of the
Speaker:refund comes to the school budget.
Speaker:And she said, OK, that's a deal because
Speaker:it was still like
Speaker:something like twenty five thousand
Speaker:dollars that she got. You can use on
Speaker:important stuff. Yeah. And we
Speaker:used it to for train because
Speaker:in Vegas, in Nevada, the way the budget
Speaker:works is it has to
Speaker:benefit directly the kids.
Speaker:So you can't use money, budget money that
Speaker:doesn't benefit directly the kids,
Speaker:but they got training to go in there
Speaker:because if I'm better trained, that
Speaker:directly affects the kids.
Speaker:So we got we got lots of training and
Speaker:then we bought novels and
Speaker:novels and more novels and more
Speaker:novels. Whenever anybody asks me for a
Speaker:good textbook
Speaker:recommendation, I'm like, just buy
Speaker:actual books. Yeah, that's my
Speaker:recommendation. Yeah, it's absolutely
Speaker:true. And so that was
Speaker:and find some picture books, go down to
Speaker:the thrift store, find a
Speaker:bunch of picture books,
Speaker:whatever you can find. That's what you
Speaker:got. Yeah, it's
Speaker:absolutely. It's really, really,
Speaker:really important. So that's kind of how
Speaker:we dealt with it. So I'm
Speaker:going to have to do some planning,
Speaker:as I said, before school starts, we start
Speaker:the seventh of August is
Speaker:the official first day for
Speaker:teachers. And I'm sure because I'm going
Speaker:to a new new school, I
Speaker:have to go do some extra stuff
Speaker:before that. But the seventh of August
Speaker:and then the kids start the
Speaker:next week, I think on Wednesday
Speaker:or something like that. So I've got some
Speaker:time and I'm not going to
Speaker:start doing mine until the last
Speaker:part of July. So to go through that and
Speaker:kind of look at it other
Speaker:than my folders, I will have my
Speaker:folders created by the end of today. It's
Speaker:on my to do list. But we
Speaker:all all of us are guilty that
Speaker:the end of the school year, we're like,
Speaker:we are done. We aren't going to do
Speaker:anything. And come that
Speaker:first Monday, we're starting thinking
Speaker:about what we're doing. I know Adriana
Speaker:Ramirez, she does all
Speaker:she if you want to learn how to teach a
Speaker:novel, there is no better
Speaker:than Adriana Ramirez. Yeah,
Speaker:absolutely. She is amazing. I took her
Speaker:advanced Spanish classes
Speaker:that you can take through
Speaker:fluency fast. Not to better my Spanish,
Speaker:though my Spanish
Speaker:gets better during that.
Speaker:Oh, good. But to watch her teach a novel,
Speaker:because that's how she
Speaker:teaches those classes
Speaker:through a novel. And she makes a
Speaker:recommendation. Yeah. And
Speaker:she does. I mean, she makes you
Speaker:involved in the novel. She'll pick to
Speaker:find the culture. She'll
Speaker:find music from that culture
Speaker:and plays that music and shows and talks
Speaker:about the artist and that she
Speaker:talks about the food and all
Speaker:that stuff. So she brings in. She's not
Speaker:just teaching the novel.
Speaker:Right. And then she's got
Speaker:great questions. I remember I don't
Speaker:remember what novel she taught this with.
Speaker:Oh, I think it was Mepervi and Medellin.
Speaker:I got lost in Medellin. I
Speaker:like that book. But she's
Speaker:talking about what did she call it? I
Speaker:forgot the word for it. In English, I
Speaker:forgot the word which
Speaker:she called it. But in Spanish. No, I
Speaker:can't remember. I can't remember the word
Speaker:at all. The whole thing
Speaker:is gone. But it's the act of she brought
Speaker:this whole debate in
Speaker:whether it was OK for Americans
Speaker:to haggle with locals about the price of
Speaker:whatever they're
Speaker:buying. And she was saying,
Speaker:and I don't disagree with her, that it is
Speaker:not ethical for
Speaker:Americans to haggle the price
Speaker:because the starting price they give you
Speaker:is not expensive. And we
Speaker:can afford it because we're on
Speaker:vacation and we're Americans and she's
Speaker:Canadian. I mean, she's Colombian, but
Speaker:she lives in Canada.
Speaker:So same difference. You know, everybody
Speaker:calls Canada America
Speaker:light. Well, it is America.
Speaker:Canada is America. Mexico is America.
Speaker:That's true. Very true. But that as
Speaker:Canadians and Americans,
Speaker:can afford or even Europeans can afford
Speaker:the price that they're
Speaker:talking about. It's a twenty
Speaker:dollar t-shirt. It's a fifteen dollar
Speaker:trinket or whatever it is. And these
Speaker:people need this money
Speaker:to survive. This is their livelihood. So
Speaker:should we really haggle
Speaker:them down to the lowest price
Speaker:when we can afford it? It's not a big
Speaker:deal and it's still a bargain that's
Speaker:cheaper than we bought
Speaker:in our own country. Uh huh. The haggling
Speaker:should be for the locals who can afford
Speaker:the higher price and they should be doing
Speaker:that. So I forgot there's a
Speaker:word, a real standard word
Speaker:for that. Eco, I don't know what it's
Speaker:called, something like
Speaker:that. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:That's a new thing that that's very
Speaker:interesting because
Speaker:whenever I used to go to Nogales,
Speaker:I could hear them talking about me. Oh,
Speaker:La gringa, you know, and they're and
Speaker:they're talking about how
Speaker:they're going to raise the price because
Speaker:obviously I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker:And for me, I was so
Speaker:insulted. Of course, I would answer them
Speaker:in Spanish and then start the haggling
Speaker:because I didn't want
Speaker:to be taken advantage of, you know. Yeah.
Speaker:So that's that's very
Speaker:interesting because I wouldn't have
Speaker:thought of that. I didn't either. I never
Speaker:thought of that perspective because I
Speaker:thought that was the
Speaker:whole point. We learned that in the
Speaker:shopping chapter about how
Speaker:haggling and and that's being
Speaker:part of the culture. But it's the
Speaker:culture. Yeah. But then you think maybe
Speaker:there's a compromise that
Speaker:haggle, but only haggle the first two
Speaker:steps or something, you
Speaker:know, and then accept the price.
Speaker:And then you've practiced your Spanish,
Speaker:which is what you are. You've been
Speaker:immersed in the culture
Speaker:and they still get more than they would
Speaker:have gotten otherwise.
Speaker:Exactly. Maybe that's the
Speaker:that's what I'll do next time if I ever
Speaker:get back down there. I'm up in the
Speaker:Pacific Northwest now.
Speaker:It's hard for me to get down and know
Speaker:Godless anymore. Yeah. But
Speaker:yeah. But it's but that that
Speaker:was a really good. She took that out of
Speaker:the novel of the chapter
Speaker:that he was haggling in
Speaker:when he was trying to buy the jewelry for
Speaker:his sister. So now it's
Speaker:just really an interesting
Speaker:approach that you took the novel that is
Speaker:concrete and took it into
Speaker:a broader aspect in a level
Speaker:two class. Yes. So you bring up a good
Speaker:thing because one of the
Speaker:things I was going to be
Speaker:working on this summer is my very
Speaker:absolute favorite thing to
Speaker:do with the students. The
Speaker:thing I love the most is to read to them.
Speaker:I project images of a
Speaker:comic book on the screen
Speaker:and we you know it's on my smart board so
Speaker:I can circle words. I can
Speaker:draw arrows to antecedents.
Speaker:I can conjugate verbs on the on top of
Speaker:the comic panel you know and staying
Speaker:entirely in the target
Speaker:language having this very comprehensible
Speaker:lesson and this year it was
Speaker:pulling teeth and last year
Speaker:it was getting difficult. I mean I see a
Speaker:shift in the student's
Speaker:ability to focus. And so my thought
Speaker:for the summer was one of the things I
Speaker:have to do is more embedded
Speaker:readings for the comic books
Speaker:that I know are like you know tantan is a
Speaker:classic in French class.
Speaker:We got to do tantan because
Speaker:people have based their whole writing
Speaker:career off of tantan and how
Speaker:much they loved it as a child
Speaker:and now they're going to write like that
Speaker:as an adult you know. So I
Speaker:need them to understand that.
Speaker:So I've made some embedded readings for a
Speaker:couple of the tantans
Speaker:along. Maybe I need to do more
Speaker:because I'm just having such a hard time
Speaker:holding the student's
Speaker:attention as and you know I only
Speaker:read to them for five ten minutes of
Speaker:class time and then we move on to
Speaker:something else because
Speaker:it's part of my routine. And so I'm
Speaker:thinking maybe I need to do more of that
Speaker:but I like your thought
Speaker:about attending one of her classes to see
Speaker:how she does it. Yeah she
Speaker:is amazing in how she does it
Speaker:but she takes that summer what whole
Speaker:reason I brought it up is
Speaker:she plans those units during
Speaker:summer because there's just no time
Speaker:during the school year
Speaker:because they're so in depth
Speaker:that she does with them. And I do that
Speaker:you know I have like we
Speaker:read for five maybe ten minutes
Speaker:depending on how much the students get
Speaker:into it and then I have them
Speaker:do something with the language
Speaker:they just saw. And I've planned all that
Speaker:out oh at this point you're
Speaker:going to do a draw label caption
Speaker:at this point you're going to do
Speaker:beginning middle and at this point you're
Speaker:going to you know show
Speaker:understood the words oh here Tonton is
Speaker:haggling in a la Marche you know let's
Speaker:you know do a little
Speaker:role play on that or whatever and every
Speaker:day it's something new
Speaker:depending on what we had just read
Speaker:and that takes a lot of planning. But
Speaker:yeah so that's a very good
Speaker:idea I like that. And you know
Speaker:something I do I do what was what Susie
Speaker:Gross calls the
Speaker:kindergarten day. Yeah and that's the
Speaker:read aloud and I know the strength of
Speaker:that because there's a book
Speaker:called the read aloud handbook
Speaker:that is so important that is such an
Speaker:important read that book if
Speaker:you've not read that book read
Speaker:that book read aloud handbook it is
Speaker:amazing. It's not specific to language
Speaker:but it is specific to
Speaker:education as a whole and what you can do
Speaker:by reading aloud to your
Speaker:kids all the way through
Speaker:college age kids. Yeah so I do that with
Speaker:them and I do it true excuse
Speaker:me truly kindergarten style.
Speaker:Everybody comes sits on the floor around
Speaker:my desk you know about my
Speaker:chair I sit there I get the
Speaker:book I buy the big books and then I will
Speaker:read it and then I show them
Speaker:the pictures let's all look
Speaker:at the pictures I let them bring I let
Speaker:them bring a snack I tell
Speaker:them in advance from kindergarten
Speaker:day you can bring a snack and you can um
Speaker:uh what do you call it bring
Speaker:a stuffed animal or use one
Speaker:of my stuffed animals to cuddle with. So
Speaker:I bring it like there animals because
Speaker:those are my puppets
Speaker:during tprs you know like oh you know
Speaker:somebody's thinking something and you
Speaker:know they get the cup
Speaker:and then the kids understand what you're
Speaker:saying yeah that's a good
Speaker:idea and and because I don't
Speaker:allow them to read aloud to them because
Speaker:yeah you know okay here's
Speaker:chapter of the great gatsby I'm
Speaker:going to read it aloud to you so that you
Speaker:understand it you know
Speaker:and then and I have my
Speaker:my English students I have them draw what
Speaker:you're hearing while
Speaker:they're doing it because otherwise
Speaker:otherwise they put their head on the desk
Speaker:and they're tuned out
Speaker:yeah see the kids can't put
Speaker:their head on this because they're
Speaker:sitting on the floor yeah there I tell
Speaker:them I go I tell them I go
Speaker:we're having kindergarten day on Friday
Speaker:no skirts no dresses because
Speaker:I don't want to hear excuses
Speaker:I can't send the floor because I got a
Speaker:skirt on no everybody sits
Speaker:on the floor you know I don't
Speaker:have carpet squares but I should little
Speaker:carpet squares like in
Speaker:kindergarten we read and because
Speaker:I don't allow them to eat otherwise in
Speaker:class this is a special day because they
Speaker:can bring a snack to
Speaker:eat during that time and it's just like
Speaker:kindergarten so I make it as much as
Speaker:possible like that and
Speaker:I find you know good fun books and some
Speaker:of the books are too
Speaker:complicated so I don't read them
Speaker:I describe the pictures like you know
Speaker:infant style and then there are other
Speaker:ones that I can read the
Speaker:text so I'll start with describing the
Speaker:pictures and then I'll move
Speaker:into the text if the text is
Speaker:simple enough but some I never read the
Speaker:text at all I just described
Speaker:the picture and flip the page
Speaker:you know ask my questions and stuff like
Speaker:that so there's a
Speaker:series of five that I use
Speaker:to teach colors I never have to
Speaker:explicitly teach colors because all I
Speaker:talk about it's the blue
Speaker:turtle the red rhinoceros the yellow
Speaker:hippopotamus and the green bear so
Speaker:they've got these four
Speaker:characters and each book focuses on one
Speaker:of these characters and so
Speaker:all I'm doing is what's the
Speaker:animal all the different animals that
Speaker:show up in the book and then
Speaker:what color is it what colors
Speaker:the tree what color is the bush what
Speaker:color is the house what
Speaker:color is the car so that we can
Speaker:and by the time I've done these four
Speaker:books bumble bumble I've
Speaker:already taught my colors
Speaker:without even trying without even trying
Speaker:to teach the colors so
Speaker:reading is where it's at and I
Speaker:notice one of the things that's lacking
Speaker:because people who've been
Speaker:listening to us know that I'm
Speaker:taking Maltese over um the you know on
Speaker:the weekends I take a
Speaker:Maltese class with a Maltese
Speaker:speaker because it's my family's heritage
Speaker:language um and it's very
Speaker:different from every other
Speaker:language I forgot what they called it um
Speaker:most western European
Speaker:languages including Russian
Speaker:and the Slavic languages are this type of
Speaker:a language where we take
Speaker:a root word and we can add
Speaker:prefix or a suffix to it to change the
Speaker:meanings but Arabic were
Speaker:Arabic languages which Maltese is
Speaker:a is a Arabic language does not do that
Speaker:they do they use something
Speaker:called the trilateral root
Speaker:so it's called the er in Maltese I don't
Speaker:know what it's called
Speaker:anywhere else but um three letters
Speaker:represent the root meaning of the word
Speaker:and then how the vowels
Speaker:are placed within those
Speaker:changes the meaning so you know like KTB
Speaker:has something to do with writing
Speaker:uh-huh and KTEB that is book but IKTEB
Speaker:I'm sorry NIKTEB is I write
Speaker:and so just by if you see the three
Speaker:consonants KTB you know it's
Speaker:something to do with writing
Speaker:and so it's a whole
Speaker:different aspect and my brain hurts
Speaker:well it's kind of like Japanese and
Speaker:Chinese then and the Korean
Speaker:before they ditched the kanji
Speaker:if you if you're reading and you know the
Speaker:radicals then you know oh this has
Speaker:something to do with
Speaker:writing oh this has something to do with
Speaker:speaking oh this has something to do with
Speaker:trees oh this you know so you could
Speaker:figure it out that way so that's that's
Speaker:fascinating yeah so and
Speaker:it is fascinating but my brain hurts
Speaker:because I don't of all the
Speaker:languages I speak none of
Speaker:them work this way so it's just it's a
Speaker:it's a harder way to wrap
Speaker:around but what we're lacking
Speaker:is reading he doesn't do readings so that
Speaker:I what I do and they're
Speaker:not correct because it's AI
Speaker:but I will take the lesson that he gave
Speaker:me and then I will tell AI
Speaker:to take the vocab out of this
Speaker:and give me 15 progressively more
Speaker:difficult readings from
Speaker:this so start with A1 and just
Speaker:keep them stay we're all in A1 but keep
Speaker:it there but make each one a
Speaker:little bit more difficult than
Speaker:the other one with 10 comprehension
Speaker:questions in English about each one so I
Speaker:know they're not 100%
Speaker:correct because AI is not going to get
Speaker:everything correct but it's
Speaker:exposing the vocabulary to me in
Speaker:context a little a little bit more so I
Speaker:know that reading is so very
Speaker:important as I'm learning a
Speaker:language that is so far removed I mean
Speaker:it's one thing I speak a Germanic
Speaker:language and I speak
Speaker:Latin based languages and then I've got
Speaker:English which is a
Speaker:Germanic language so I have those
Speaker:constructs and German is very different
Speaker:from Latin based languages
Speaker:but I have the German constructs
Speaker:in my head and the Latin and they are
Speaker:very different but they
Speaker:have a lot more similarities
Speaker:subject, verb, object you know that kind
Speaker:of stuff is kind of in
Speaker:that same kind of way
Speaker:this is totally different totally
Speaker:different and it
Speaker:doesn't have a verb to be
Speaker:have you found any online book supplier
Speaker:that would carry anything like I have I
Speaker:bought I've got like
Speaker:these little dictionaries I bought this
Speaker:one I bought when I was in
Speaker:Malta I've got it right here
Speaker:I'm studying it this one this was a good
Speaker:one perfect yep says
Speaker:my first dictionary okay
Speaker:and it's got all the words yeah that's
Speaker:great that's great yeah so
Speaker:that's helped and what I've done
Speaker:is I've taken a picture of each of these
Speaker:pages and then I put it
Speaker:into AI and asked them to make
Speaker:me Anki are you familiar with Anki oh
Speaker:yeah uh-huh so I take the
Speaker:picture and I say please make me
Speaker:Anki flashcards with these words and I
Speaker:import it into my Anki so
Speaker:it's instead of me typing them
Speaker:all out I do it this way so I can I can
Speaker:scan it in there but I bought another
Speaker:book it was the first
Speaker:100 words and it really was a pamphlet
Speaker:and it really I think
Speaker:$13 for it and it really
Speaker:for a pamphlet and I was like this was a
Speaker:much better buy I mean
Speaker:but I did buy this in um
Speaker:oh it's got a website maybe we should go
Speaker:to that website and check
Speaker:it out go to the website
Speaker:and find some children's books like not
Speaker:just dictionaries yeah
Speaker:yeah but yeah so reading is
Speaker:really really important so I got to
Speaker:stress that we've only got
Speaker:15 minutes left and we've only
Speaker:talked a little bit about our subjects I
Speaker:know go so fast because I
Speaker:need I need help with this
Speaker:because um this summer is going to be
Speaker:crazy for me because um I have
Speaker:I have two more days of school
Speaker:and four more preps and then I teach
Speaker:summer school summer school is a
Speaker:whirlwind it's 13 days
Speaker:the students get a semester in 13 days
Speaker:that's health class um and
Speaker:then I have a little bit of
Speaker:time off but then I'm taking an AP class
Speaker:because like you said you no
Speaker:longer have a French teacher
Speaker:at your new school we're seeing our
Speaker:numbers drop too and so I'm
Speaker:going to be taking an AP French
Speaker:class so that I can offer AP French
Speaker:hopefully to entice students to take
Speaker:French because everyone
Speaker:wants to take Spanish of course for good
Speaker:reason you know but but I
Speaker:would like to see our school
Speaker:in a three language school I don't want
Speaker:it like if we're competing
Speaker:I don't know about every all
Speaker:our listeners um we're competing with
Speaker:Running Start we lose so many students
Speaker:going to Running Start
Speaker:which makes sense because if you can go
Speaker:to Running Start you save so much money
Speaker:for your college right
Speaker:what is Running Start I'm not familiar
Speaker:with that is is oh I'll go to
Speaker:high school part time and then
Speaker:I'll go to the community college for the
Speaker:rest of my classes or I'll
Speaker:go completely to community
Speaker:for my last year of high school so every
Speaker:year I lose about 10
Speaker:students to they go to Running Start
Speaker:and they're not taking the second year of
Speaker:French they're not taking
Speaker:the second year of Spanish
Speaker:Japanese is pretty good students will
Speaker:stay for Japanese um because
Speaker:they know I'm more fun than
Speaker:college anyway yeah we call that dual
Speaker:enrollment that's what we call dual
Speaker:enrollment over here
Speaker:okay because the school I taught at
Speaker:before I was at this the
Speaker:Career and Technical Academy
Speaker:which is a little bit off but we shared
Speaker:that campus with the middle
Speaker:college and the middle college
Speaker:they got dual enrollment so when they
Speaker:finished high school they
Speaker:they graduated also with a
Speaker:associate's degree right right and so we
Speaker:were trying to bring in
Speaker:college in the high school
Speaker:and I applied to four different college
Speaker:in the high schools for French and for
Speaker:Japanese and each one
Speaker:said um thank you for applying we're not
Speaker:offering those anymore
Speaker:because we don't have enough
Speaker:enrollment at the college it's like okay
Speaker:well I only teach Spanish
Speaker:level one so I can't offer
Speaker:college in the high school for level one
Speaker:it has to be on my second
Speaker:third fourth year classes
Speaker:so now I'm going to AP Tech if I can
Speaker:convince students to stay at
Speaker:my high school to get their
Speaker:AP credit then that keeps them away from
Speaker:running start or dual
Speaker:enrollment so so it's going to be a
Speaker:bit and now I've got um junior or
Speaker:freshman English to come up on so I'm I'm
Speaker:hurting this summer yeah
Speaker:and that brings right to my next question
Speaker:is if I can just carve
Speaker:out 15 minutes a day to play
Speaker:piano I'll be happy yeah I mean that
Speaker:brings me to that next
Speaker:question about you know why do we feel
Speaker:to take our vacation because in other
Speaker:professions when they go on
Speaker:vacation they're on vacation
Speaker:you know yeah even high stress jobs like
Speaker:doctors and lawyers they
Speaker:take vacations and they're not
Speaker:practicing you know doctoring or
Speaker:lawyering while they're on vacations but
Speaker:us teachers we do we
Speaker:our winter break we're planning for what
Speaker:we're doing next you know we're not
Speaker:and I think you hit the nail on the head
Speaker:when you're talking
Speaker:about your personal situation
Speaker:that we're always trying to keep up with
Speaker:what's happening whether
Speaker:it be lower enrollments or
Speaker:looking for ways um we generally don't
Speaker:sit on our laurels when it
Speaker:comes to curriculum meaning
Speaker:that we don't just say laminate our
Speaker:lesson plans and just go okay we're on
Speaker:the fourth day of school
Speaker:let me open up my fourth day lesson plan
Speaker:and just do that one we are
Speaker:constantly flexibility is the
Speaker:name of the game you have to say oh the
Speaker:students sitting in front of me I'm
Speaker:looking in their eyes
Speaker:they are not understanding I better slow
Speaker:down I'm looking in their
Speaker:eyes oh they got this I can
Speaker:and you know this is the thing I've
Speaker:complained about this
Speaker:many times on the podcast now
Speaker:when you have to march lockstep um when
Speaker:when the hammer comes
Speaker:down from the district saying
Speaker:everybody's got to do this at the same
Speaker:time I've got two Spanish
Speaker:one classes and they are not on
Speaker:the same level and I am the same teacher
Speaker:I'm teaching the same way
Speaker:it's totally class dynamics
Speaker:there is no way you can force four
Speaker:different Spanish teachers
Speaker:to do the exact same thing
Speaker:on the exact same day it's bad teaching
Speaker:students are not the same
Speaker:people it is bad teaching yeah
Speaker:yeah it's bad teaching and so you have to
Speaker:be flexible there's
Speaker:gonna be times when you say
Speaker:that didn't work I need to try something
Speaker:new and I understand why
Speaker:administrators try to apply that
Speaker:because it's easier for them to assess
Speaker:you as a teacher if
Speaker:everybody yeah but just because it
Speaker:easy for administrators and for even for
Speaker:teachers to say okay we
Speaker:can share the planning
Speaker:because we're all going to do this on
Speaker:Tuesday it that doesn't
Speaker:make it good for kids and my
Speaker:default always is what's best for kids
Speaker:not what's best for me
Speaker:well and so other things
Speaker:where they say well what if there's twins
Speaker:and one of the twins has
Speaker:you and one of the twins has
Speaker:and I'm like it doesn't matter twins are
Speaker:different people they're
Speaker:going to respond differently and
Speaker:they're in different classrooms and those
Speaker:classrooms are going to be different
Speaker:the twins are not going to have the same
Speaker:experience no matter
Speaker:what it doesn't yeah it
Speaker:and let's let's be honest when does that
Speaker:happen often enough because my
Speaker:secretaries my registrars
Speaker:are evil to me and they put the twins in
Speaker:the same damn class and
Speaker:I can't tell them apart
Speaker:like I know one teacher did the same
Speaker:thing we had these two really
Speaker:intelligent boys I mean they
Speaker:were I mean way up they were you know I
Speaker:had him as eighth graders
Speaker:but I was warned about him as
Speaker:sixth graders that as sixth graders they
Speaker:talk like they're seniors
Speaker:in high school they're very
Speaker:they they could talk politics they could
Speaker:hold their own they're
Speaker:just really smart twins
Speaker:and for whatever reason in most their
Speaker:classes they were in the
Speaker:same class with each other
Speaker:in every class and he goes I can't tell
Speaker:them apart and so I guess
Speaker:start calling them by last name
Speaker:I don't care which one answers I get
Speaker:called by the last name and
Speaker:I'm like I could tell these
Speaker:ones apart because one was left-handed
Speaker:one was right-handed yeah
Speaker:so I could tell that but that
Speaker:because they were mere twins they were
Speaker:the opposite right the hair parts on the
Speaker:other side I had that
Speaker:no my problem is when I have them in
Speaker:different classes I never
Speaker:get a chance to side by side
Speaker:compare them so if I'm walking down the
Speaker:hallway oh yeah one I'm
Speaker:like dang now that I don't know
Speaker:which one that is because I haven't like
Speaker:actually compared them side
Speaker:by side but that's such a rare
Speaker:number one twins and number two have them
Speaker:in different classes it
Speaker:just they always go to those
Speaker:extremes I had triplets once and that was
Speaker:even worse than twins I'm
Speaker:like one year I had six sets
Speaker:of twins in all my classes I'm like was
Speaker:it in the water that year
Speaker:what was going on it was like oh
Speaker:my gosh I couldn't I couldn't keep it
Speaker:straight but um I will say here's my
Speaker:suggestion it'll apply
Speaker:to you too my suggestion is what I'm
Speaker:doing you need to take
Speaker:time for yourself so at least
Speaker:for the first two weeks of summer don't
Speaker:do summer cleaning or any
Speaker:of those kinds of chores
Speaker:work on relaxing and doing stuff for
Speaker:yourself last what day did I go Thursday
Speaker:I think it was Thursday
Speaker:um I went with a friend I met the dog
Speaker:park and we both went
Speaker:to the lake with our dogs
Speaker:and spent three hours there oh my gosh my
Speaker:dog had never been to
Speaker:a lake been to streams
Speaker:been to a pool but never to a lake and
Speaker:she when she first started
Speaker:swimming she was a little
Speaker:afraid when she go and they go I can't
Speaker:touch and she didn't know
Speaker:what to do she she could paddle
Speaker:but she made her really nervous so she
Speaker:went back and then I went out in the
Speaker:water then she'd come
Speaker:to me and then when she got nervous she
Speaker:tried to jump on me like I
Speaker:was an island she can hang on to
Speaker:me she is yeah she's 65 pounds so but I
Speaker:saw her have athleticism
Speaker:number one that I don't usually
Speaker:see because there's there's all these
Speaker:driftwood so she's jumping
Speaker:and all that kind of stuff and
Speaker:playing with their dog and she's off
Speaker:leash which we're not supposed to do in
Speaker:the park where we are
Speaker:but it was um she has good recall and the
Speaker:street was just beyond the
Speaker:hill where we were so maybe
Speaker:50 feet from the water line was the
Speaker:street and then we made sure
Speaker:when they we couldn't see them
Speaker:we called them back and within a few
Speaker:times of me doing that she
Speaker:learned her boundaries and she
Speaker:wouldn't go past those boundaries when
Speaker:they're playing and stuff
Speaker:like that so I was really
Speaker:impressed with her off leash skills
Speaker:because I knew she did well but I thought
Speaker:she saw a squirrel or
Speaker:something but we had a good time so the
Speaker:first two weeks you're just
Speaker:taking time to relax take time
Speaker:for yourself be selfish this is time
Speaker:where if you want to veg in front of
Speaker:Netflix veg in front of
Speaker:Netflix for the two weeks just to have
Speaker:whatever you need to do to
Speaker:decompress and wash the previous
Speaker:off of you then that's a good idea I love
Speaker:that so and then the middle of the summer
Speaker:do your other things maybe you have
Speaker:summer projects they're
Speaker:not school related but
Speaker:house related or relationship related or
Speaker:something like that to do
Speaker:that maybe you can do your
Speaker:vacation that you're gonna do where
Speaker:you're gonna actually go
Speaker:someplace and do something
Speaker:or if you've got a remodeling project
Speaker:that you want to work
Speaker:on or something like that
Speaker:those chores but they have nothing to do
Speaker:with school get that done
Speaker:in the middle of the summer
Speaker:and then if you have to do planning do it
Speaker:right the last two to three
Speaker:I wouldn't say three weeks
Speaker:two weeks before where you might put in
Speaker:the same amount of school
Speaker:hours think okay school starts
Speaker:earlier than normal I normally would have
Speaker:to get up at this time get
Speaker:on your school schedule and
Speaker:do your work during that school schedule
Speaker:take your passing breaks in
Speaker:between where you get up go to
Speaker:the bathroom get a drink I think that's
Speaker:crucial yeah and get on
Speaker:that schedule and get that work
Speaker:because now you you you're starting to
Speaker:plan and you're getting that
Speaker:momentum for that new school
Speaker:coming in where if you start to do this
Speaker:at the end of the school year you're
Speaker:tired and you're not
Speaker:going to give it your best effort and
Speaker:your breast brain because you're you
Speaker:think well I'm still in
Speaker:that school mood so I'll do it then but
Speaker:you're tired you don't
Speaker:realize how tired and mentally
Speaker:your brain is exhausted so give it that
Speaker:break and if you have ideas
Speaker:make a google doc and just put
Speaker:ideas down like I have got um let me go
Speaker:to my little page I've got
Speaker:right over here I have got
Speaker:I've got my file too of I'm not working
Speaker:on this right now but this
Speaker:is at some point when I have
Speaker:the bandwidth and I'm relaxed and I want
Speaker:to work on this this is
Speaker:right there for me to think about
Speaker:yeah yeah I put it in my to-do list so in
Speaker:my to-do list I've got a
Speaker:list called next school year
Speaker:yeah and I will just put my ideas on
Speaker:there no due dates nothing just put it on
Speaker:there yeah so that I
Speaker:can um think about it and I go oh that's
Speaker:something I wanted to do and
Speaker:I do that also throughout the
Speaker:school year I add to this thing go
Speaker:because I don't want to change it right
Speaker:now I'm right in the middle
Speaker:of the square I've got other things to
Speaker:worry about but it's something that I
Speaker:want to do for the next
Speaker:year and so I will I'll put it on this
Speaker:list and then you can
Speaker:put it off to where you can get some
Speaker:sleep at night and not worry about it
Speaker:because you've offloaded
Speaker:it to a list that you can come back to
Speaker:afterwards um so that's okay it's not
Speaker:even next year sometimes
Speaker:it takes two years because the thoughts
Speaker:have to percolate in the
Speaker:head and then suddenly it clicks
Speaker:and you're like ah I've got it and you
Speaker:spend a half an hour
Speaker:planning it instead of five weeks
Speaker:because yeah because it's been percolated
Speaker:yeah and you know it's
Speaker:funny when you say that because
Speaker:back in school they used to tell you to
Speaker:make two three drafts of
Speaker:writing and whenever I did that
Speaker:I always got lower grades and I couldn't
Speaker:figure out why because it
Speaker:was overworked is what ended
Speaker:up happening because what I didn't
Speaker:realize when other people
Speaker:write on drafts I would do in my
Speaker:head before I wrote it right so I would
Speaker:be thinking about it how
Speaker:do I want to write that
Speaker:paragraph how do I want to do that I
Speaker:would do all that in my head
Speaker:and then I had done all that
Speaker:planning in my head so when I got there I
Speaker:could just stream of
Speaker:conscious right and get a good
Speaker:draft right off and I always did better
Speaker:that way because I did the
Speaker:same thing that they were
Speaker:telling us to do I just did it in my head
Speaker:instead of on paper first
Speaker:and that's what worked for me
Speaker:there's a trick with drafts the trick is
Speaker:you write your draft and
Speaker:then you walk away for two weeks
Speaker:you don't look at it for two weeks and
Speaker:then you go back to it and
Speaker:then you can edit it yeah and
Speaker:see I never I like I've got a unit and I
Speaker:you have to get through the unit that
Speaker:you're not giving that
Speaker:rest period and again it's just like what
Speaker:we're talking about you
Speaker:need time to recharge your
Speaker:batteries and so that's that's what that
Speaker:is yeah absolutely absolutely so that is
Speaker:my my recommendation
Speaker:for that is to split your summer up so
Speaker:you've got about two months
Speaker:two months is summer so you've
Speaker:got your first two weeks vegetate do
Speaker:whatever you need to do to recharge your
Speaker:batteries for you be
Speaker:selfish during that time tell your spouse
Speaker:your partner whatever you
Speaker:have that you know um I was
Speaker:on all year and now I need me time and
Speaker:then um then the last two
Speaker:weeks is your planning time
Speaker:and then take that month in between to do
Speaker:summer things that are
Speaker:not school related but other
Speaker:things whether they be personal projects
Speaker:vacations visiting family
Speaker:doing all those other little things
Speaker:to do um I think that's the best way to
Speaker:split it up so where you're
Speaker:not saying because it's just
Speaker:like dieting if you say no I can't have
Speaker:that cake you're gonna want
Speaker:it even more and so if you say
Speaker:no I'm not gonna do any school work over
Speaker:the summer time then
Speaker:here's the problem what are you
Speaker:doing all summer long is thinking about
Speaker:all that work that you have
Speaker:to get done yeah and that's
Speaker:that's not relaxing that's not I mean
Speaker:your body may be relaxing
Speaker:but your brain is not relaxing
Speaker:and so if you say okay there's a time for
Speaker:everything and you break
Speaker:up your time and you go
Speaker:I'll just write it down and I know the
Speaker:last two weeks of July
Speaker:from July 15 to July 31st
Speaker:that is when I'm going to be working on
Speaker:that and that way you get
Speaker:your rest you get your summer
Speaker:month and then you've got two weeks that
Speaker:you can start planning
Speaker:before before you start and then
Speaker:you can go in on that first day running
Speaker:already because you've
Speaker:already been thinking about that
Speaker:stuff instead of the opposite where you
Speaker:and I'm planning it yeah
Speaker:yeah when you plan at the end of
Speaker:the year it's crap planning because
Speaker:you're tired and then you've lost your
Speaker:momentum from that you
Speaker:don't even always remember what you were
Speaker:thinking when you wrote that
Speaker:yeah and then you start from
Speaker:like a cold start like a starting your
Speaker:car in the middle of a
Speaker:blizzard you know it's been a cold
Speaker:start and you're trying to get it started
Speaker:and it's like what I should
Speaker:be working in this and it's
Speaker:the same kind of thing in the summer if
Speaker:you just go in don't think
Speaker:about school at all at the end
Speaker:of the summer and you show up on the
Speaker:first day and then you're like wait
Speaker:you're still in summer
Speaker:and it takes a while for you to warm up
Speaker:that two weeks can help
Speaker:get you started there right
Speaker:yeah that's that's great what I do is my
Speaker:rule is I don't plan anything that I
Speaker:don't find personally
Speaker:fun I don't remember if we were talking
Speaker:about this before we
Speaker:started the podcast or after how
Speaker:I secretly really hate the great Gatsby
Speaker:yeah I was trying to find
Speaker:an angle so desperately I
Speaker:don't want to be up in front of the kids
Speaker:doing something I don't
Speaker:like so um like one of the
Speaker:things I'm planning is um I just wrote a
Speaker:grant for a bunch of
Speaker:amigurumi looms now I I liked I'm not
Speaker:very good at it but I really like to make
Speaker:uh I like to knit and I
Speaker:like to I'm learning how to
Speaker:crochet I don't know how to crochet but
Speaker:I'm like my Japanese
Speaker:students need to learn how to count
Speaker:and I think these little amigurumi looms
Speaker:that I found at Daiso for
Speaker:a dollar fifty per you know
Speaker:I can buy 30 of those with a grant 30 36
Speaker:of those with a grant and I
Speaker:can teach my students how to
Speaker:count and I can also teach them how to
Speaker:amigurumi and it's something
Speaker:I find fun and then they'll
Speaker:have something to hang off their
Speaker:backpacks and as they're walking around
Speaker:the school they're kind of
Speaker:advertising Japanese class you know so
Speaker:for me it's like ah I'm going to be
Speaker:making some amigurumi
Speaker:stuff over the summer you know which is
Speaker:fun for me and it's relaxing a lot of
Speaker:people talk about how
Speaker:knitting is very zen like because your
Speaker:your mind kind of wanders
Speaker:when your your hands get in that
Speaker:like the the muscle memory of it and
Speaker:everything so for me I can plan that
Speaker:lesson and still have
Speaker:fun doing it myself so I that's the kind
Speaker:of stuff that I will you
Speaker:know if I can double dip on it
Speaker:that's what I'll be doing but that's the
Speaker:only planning I'll be
Speaker:doing other than this AP French
Speaker:course that I'll be taking learning how
Speaker:to teach AP stuff and
Speaker:getting ready for my English course
Speaker:so you know I like to read that's not a
Speaker:bad thing you know I'm
Speaker:enjoying I just started to kill a
Speaker:mockingbird again and I've forgotten how
Speaker:much I liked it I think
Speaker:it's very well written so I've
Speaker:not read that book question about
Speaker:knitting though this is
Speaker:off topic about knitting but
Speaker:do you knit European style or American
Speaker:style I have no idea
Speaker:because I'm not very good at it
Speaker:well the the I learned European style I
Speaker:learned from German ladies
Speaker:because I was in 4-H in a
Speaker:German town in America so I learned from
Speaker:German ladies so they
Speaker:always make fun of the Americans
Speaker:how they do it because when you knit the
Speaker:Americans stop what they're doing they
Speaker:wrap the round around
Speaker:and then they go and then they wrap the
Speaker:round and they wrap it and then the
Speaker:Europeans they use the
Speaker:needles to grab that next piece of yarn
Speaker:okay okay well I use the
Speaker:needles okay so your European
Speaker:style because that's how I remember
Speaker:learning easier that way
Speaker:yeah because you can always go
Speaker:she always tell an American because they
Speaker:take it and they go wrap it
Speaker:around and they wrap it around
Speaker:and they wrap it around yeah but I only
Speaker:ever the other thing I do is
Speaker:I only ever knit toys I don't
Speaker:knit clothing I'm not that good but I
Speaker:like to make little toys
Speaker:because like I said I use them as
Speaker:puppets in my tprs because you know the
Speaker:students are going to look
Speaker:at you blankly they don't
Speaker:understand what you're saying when you've
Speaker:got the guy crosses the street or
Speaker:whatever so I grab a
Speaker:puppet and you know I pantomime out you
Speaker:know whatever but it helps them
Speaker:understand the story
Speaker:better yeah I I have not knitted since I
Speaker:was a kid when I was in
Speaker:4-H so we're talking about
Speaker:middle school way back when in the 80s so
Speaker:it's been a long time but
Speaker:um but it was it was a good
Speaker:to learn my grandma co-shade my grandma
Speaker:co-shade crocheted um she
Speaker:crocheted she I have an afghan
Speaker:that she makes she made everybody an
Speaker:afghan before she passed away so
Speaker:everybody had an afghan
Speaker:um and so uh but she crocheted uh she
Speaker:never knitted and I
Speaker:learned a knit I never learned
Speaker:her crochet I can't imagine using just
Speaker:one little one little uh
Speaker:hook I don't know how that would
Speaker:I can't even imagine how that works with
Speaker:one I'm used to using two
Speaker:and I even made I I learned how
Speaker:to knit with the circular ones to where
Speaker:the where they're connected
Speaker:so yeah it's interesting but
Speaker:so I think that is a good place to start
Speaker:find something like you
Speaker:you found if you can find
Speaker:joy in something that you're going to be
Speaker:working on then that that
Speaker:is okay but most people don't
Speaker:find joy in lesson planning so that I
Speaker:wouldn't go that far but
Speaker:take those take those two weeks
Speaker:two weeks for yourself middle month is
Speaker:your summer yeah and then the last two
Speaker:weeks to get ready for
Speaker:the next school year I think it's enough
Speaker:and people go well two weeks
Speaker:isn't enough if it's not enough
Speaker:it never no matter what time you have
Speaker:it's never going to be
Speaker:enough so you just have to you you
Speaker:just have to work with that two weeks
Speaker:because you need to have a
Speaker:break you need to have to refresh
Speaker:because our job is very mentally draining
Speaker:I think oh my god yes my
Speaker:goodness my god it is so mentally
Speaker:draining yeah it's I mean it's not
Speaker:physical I mean I when I had
Speaker:a physical standing up job you
Speaker:had to do stuff I was I was less tired
Speaker:than I am now when I come
Speaker:home it's you know it's just it
Speaker:it just is a big difference mental work
Speaker:is a lot harder than
Speaker:physical and we do a little physical
Speaker:so it's we're not like an office desk
Speaker:where we're thinking because
Speaker:we're moving around and we're
Speaker:you know we're on our feet constantly
Speaker:we're on our feet we're moving around
Speaker:we're checking it's not
Speaker:just but it's so mentally draining to be
Speaker:always thinking about what
Speaker:that kid could possibly do
Speaker:so that you can preempt it before it
Speaker:happens always on your toes
Speaker:to think about those things
Speaker:and always have to think about what you
Speaker:say so they don't twist
Speaker:it into something dirty
Speaker:you know all these things that you've got
Speaker:to have you've got all
Speaker:these little balls that you're
Speaker:juggling all these balls that you're
Speaker:juggling all at once and if you if you
Speaker:close your eyes for even
Speaker:a second all of them start to fall down
Speaker:and crash around you so it is a really
Speaker:challenging profession
Speaker:it may not look that difficult it was
Speaker:like um when I was with my
Speaker:dog at the beach the other day
Speaker:I told her I go I'm so glad I don't have
Speaker:kids because if I had a
Speaker:toddler this is already
Speaker:stressful enough for me to keep looking
Speaker:where my dog is every five
Speaker:make sure he's not where it's
Speaker:supposed to be I can't imagine with a
Speaker:toddler and she goes yeah it's horrible
Speaker:I'm like yeah because
Speaker:you're always counting kids you know and
Speaker:I have five kids so when
Speaker:they were young I'm all you
Speaker:know you're always just kind of counting
Speaker:and uh-oh where did the fifth
Speaker:one go you know I'm like now
Speaker:I see why people have children leashes
Speaker:because that's what I would
Speaker:have to have because I mean
Speaker:I just couldn't keep but juggling all
Speaker:those balls is a lot of work a lot of
Speaker:mental work and keeping
Speaker:in the air so give yourself that time to
Speaker:break so you get your two
Speaker:weeks just to veg out and then
Speaker:you got your month where you can do your
Speaker:summer stuff maybe a project
Speaker:that you have go on vacation
Speaker:do those things and then it'll be enough
Speaker:for your brain to know that
Speaker:yes great in at the end of the
Speaker:two weeks I will be able to have time to
Speaker:work on this so that your
Speaker:brain can for the other six
Speaker:weeks of the summer can relax a little
Speaker:bit and anything that pops in
Speaker:your head just write it down
Speaker:or even if you don't not a writer you
Speaker:know most phones have those
Speaker:memo the voice memos you can
Speaker:talk right into the voice memo and keep
Speaker:it in there so that you
Speaker:don't even have to like you
Speaker:you've got it in the car you can just
Speaker:talk to it in the car and write it down
Speaker:and then you have it
Speaker:and then you can go back to that the end
Speaker:the end of July I think
Speaker:that's my best recommendation
Speaker:you kind of offloaded that cognitive
Speaker:demand yeah yeah but we we
Speaker:have to take a break because think
Speaker:about other professions they take their
Speaker:vacations too and they
Speaker:don't bring their work with them
Speaker:and so it's the same kind of thing that
Speaker:we that we do that we need
Speaker:to be able to do because we
Speaker:think we got to be working we got to be
Speaker:working remember you're not
Speaker:getting paid during the summer
Speaker:you may be getting a check but you're not
Speaker:getting paid for that
Speaker:summer hours so you don't want to
Speaker:give all your stuff away for free so with
Speaker:that with that we've ended
Speaker:our first episode of season
Speaker:four so listeners join us next week yes
Speaker:thank you for not next week
Speaker:is next week's father's day
Speaker:so we're taking yeah we're taking next
Speaker:week off because of father's
Speaker:day so thank you for giving
Speaker:up part of your summer sunday to sit here
Speaker:with us instead of and i
Speaker:want to be clear about this
Speaker:actually resting the irony is not lost on
Speaker:me and pamela thank you
Speaker:for giving permission to do
Speaker:yeah this is fun yes thank you it's not
Speaker:work exactly thank you
Speaker:for giving information to do
Speaker:nothing with such conviction that i
Speaker:almost believed it myself
Speaker:if you're walking away with
Speaker:one idea about how to protect your summer
Speaker:from your own planning
Speaker:brain we did something right
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Speaker:just tweaking one thing right
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Speaker:ditch the drills trust the process and
Speaker:we'll both see you on
Speaker:comprehend this in two weeks
Speaker:have a good one everybody
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