Episode 43: "MovieTalk Is Not a Free Day (Even Though It Looks Like One)"
MovieTalk gets accused of being a free day more than almost any other CI strategy, and this episode of Comprehend THIS! makes the case for why it's actually some of the most demanding teaching a CI classroom sees. Pamela and I are joined by veteran language teacher Liz Groothof Croddy to talk through what separates input-rich video teaching from genuine filler, and how to defend a MovieTalk day with confidence.
It's spooky season, video clips are everywhere, and an administrator walking past a MovieTalk lesson might assume it's a break day. In this episode of Comprehend THIS!, Pamela, Liz, and I share our MovieTalk origin stories, the moment we each realized it was real comprehensible input and not just entertainment, and what we say when someone accuses us of just playing a movie.
We're also being honest about the times video-based teaching has genuinely just been filler, because that happens to every CI teacher at some point, and pretending it doesn't helps nobody figure out the difference. We break down how to choose a clip on purpose, how to build language around it, and how to keep yourself honest about whether a lesson is actually input-rich. By the end, you'll have a ready answer for the next administrator, parent, or coworker who assumes MovieTalk is a break.
ABOUT OUR GUEST
Liz Groothof Croddy is the owner of Girasol Languages, where she teaches privately in a variety of languages and occasionally takes on interpretation and translation work. She spent 30 years teaching in public high schools, mostly Spanish and Japanese, plus two earlier years in private schools. She's taught languages she's fluent in and languages she's still learning (and she'll tell you she never stops learning any of them). Now retired from public education, Liz teaches adults at home and on Zoom at all levels, specializing in Spanish, French, Italian, and Japanese. She has also served as an alpha tester for Duolingo. #grammarrulz
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Transcript
Good morning everybody and welcome to
Speaker:another episode of Comprehend This.
Speaker:It's spooky season.
Speaker:Someone's about to throw on a fun video
Speaker:and an administrator is
Speaker:walking by the room already
Speaker:forming an opinion about what a
Speaker:"breakday" looks like.
Speaker:We know that opinion.
Speaker:We've seen that face.
Speaker:This week, Pamela and I are joined by Liz
Speaker:Grotoff-Krotty, owner
Speaker:of Hirasol Languages,
Speaker:who spent 30 years in
Speaker:public school classrooms teaching
Speaker:(oh
Speaker:my gosh, I'm almost there, I'm
Speaker:at year 25), Spanish and Japanese and a
Speaker:slew of other
Speaker:languages, and now teaches adults
Speaker:at home and on Zoom.
Speaker:Together we're defending movie talk and
Speaker:video-based CI as real, demanding,
Speaker:high-input teaching.
Speaker:While also being honest about the times,
Speaker:it's genuinely just filling a period.
Speaker:Because pretending that
Speaker:never happens helps nobody.
Speaker:We're talking about our movie talk origin
Speaker:stories, the moment it
Speaker:clicked as actual instruction
Speaker:and not just entertainment, and what we
Speaker:say when someone
Speaker:accuses us of just watching a
Speaker:movie.
Speaker:Plus, the framework for telling the
Speaker:difference between
Speaker:input-rich and just background noise
Speaker:so you can walk into your next movie talk
Speaker:day with an actual answer ready.
Speaker:If you've ever felt the need to justify a
Speaker:video day like you're defending a thesis,
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Speaker:Welcome to Comprehend This, real talk for
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Speaker:stories, practical ideas,
Speaker:and a reminder you're not
Speaker:alone in the CI trenches.
Speaker:Let's dive in.
Speaker:Well that was all a little bit of skip.
Speaker:You don't know exactly why that one is.
Speaker:But welcome Liz and welcome back Pamela.
Speaker:How is everybody doing today?
Speaker:My time is getting safe now.
Speaker:I am so excited.
Speaker:I am your greatest fan.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:We are so glad you're here.
Speaker:I am so excited that Liz is here.
Speaker:Liz and I have known each other for a
Speaker:long time through the
Speaker:Duolingo forums back when
Speaker:Duolingo had forums.
Speaker:And I'm so excited.
Speaker:You've even got your duo mask.
Speaker:So excited.
Speaker:We have always typed to each other and
Speaker:never heard each other's voices.
Speaker:So this is like a thrilling day for me.
Speaker:Oh, awesome.
Speaker:Liz is like cut from the same cloth.
Speaker:I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker:I have heard your voice though.
Speaker:I've listened to all your
Speaker:YouTube videos and things.
Speaker:You are so amazing.
Speaker:Scott, I'm listening to the
Speaker:podcast and past podcasts.
Speaker:The work you've done in
Speaker:your software skills, etc.
Speaker:I just want to clone you.
Speaker:Both of you are just amazing teachers.
Speaker:I appreciate that.
Speaker:I would like to clone
Speaker:myself too because I am tired.
Speaker:Sunday is my work day.
Speaker:After this, I work all
Speaker:the way until four o'clock.
Speaker:I take my dog to the park.
Speaker:But I have got so much to do that Sunday
Speaker:is like my work day.
Speaker:I don't leave this computer all day.
Speaker:I know.
Speaker:Tell us a little bit
Speaker:more about yourself, Liz.
Speaker:Yeah, so I've been in foreign languages
Speaker:for a long time, as you've seen.
Speaker:I'm so lucky.
Speaker:I started out with a
Speaker:year in ESL back in the day.
Speaker:There was one Spanish teacher and one
Speaker:French teacher per school.
Speaker:Maybe one German and you had to wait for
Speaker:them to die before you got a job.
Speaker:So I got a job in ESL and that's all
Speaker:comprehensive input.
Speaker:Yeah, I mean the kids that I had adults,
Speaker:the kids come from any place and it's all
Speaker:going to be in English.
Speaker:And when I was in college, I took a film
Speaker:my freshman year, a film
Speaker:studies class my freshman year.
Speaker:And I really got into film.
Speaker:How to analyze a film,
Speaker:how to think about film.
Speaker:And you know, I just I
Speaker:was on board from day one.
Speaker:Yeah, awesome.
Speaker:Awesome.
Speaker:So and Liz, you've taught like everything
Speaker:you've taught Spanish and French and
Speaker:Japanese and Italian, right?
Speaker:And she was born in Germany.
Speaker:I'm accidentally
Speaker:teaching some German now.
Speaker:Isn't that crazy how we kind
Speaker:of stumble into these things?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I'm learning.
Speaker:I'm teaching myself.
Speaker:My heritage language is Dutch.
Speaker:So I'm always working on that.
Speaker:You know, I and you too studying Maltese.
Speaker:I saw Pamela.
Speaker:You're doing some Chinese now.
Speaker:And do a lingo.
Speaker:Yeah, I do Mandarin
Speaker:every Saturday morning.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:That's that's what
Speaker:makes a dynamic classroom.
Speaker:The teacher himself herself is learning.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Lifelong learning.
Speaker:Yeah, I feel with my kids when they're
Speaker:when they're
Speaker:struggling, I feel it too, because
Speaker:at least I am teaching with
Speaker:comprehensible input.
Speaker:My my instructor is not a bad instructor
Speaker:in Maltese, not by any chance.
Speaker:He's a native speaker.
Speaker:He's in France right now and he's
Speaker:actually taking some other classes.
Speaker:He's in this program for something.
Speaker:I don't know because that's what we had
Speaker:to do it today because he
Speaker:was in Brussels yesterday.
Speaker:But he's just an old-fashioned teacher.
Speaker:And so they're teaching very standard and
Speaker:it's, you know, theme taught and he's not
Speaker:being comprehensible.
Speaker:He speaks at the regular language level
Speaker:and I can't pick out all the words.
Speaker:He's not trying to be comprehensible.
Speaker:He gives me all the instructions in
Speaker:Maltese and I might be
Speaker:grabbing a word keyword here.
Speaker:And what I do afterwards because he gives
Speaker:me the lesson about a half an hour before
Speaker:and then I will go through and I will
Speaker:have chat GPT do a side-by-side.
Speaker:So Maltese and then English so I can kind
Speaker:of follow but I wish I had it the day
Speaker:before so I could
Speaker:actually go through the lesson
Speaker:beforehand so that when we do it live
Speaker:together, I feel a little bit more
Speaker:prepared because I don't because he's
Speaker:like he learned and we teach the
Speaker:vocabulary right here and the next we're
Speaker:using them right away.
Speaker:And there is no time to process.
Speaker:There's no internalizing of it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So like today we learned all the
Speaker:different kitchen utensils.
Speaker:I mean some were useful for tonight those
Speaker:but I don't use a stock pot.
Speaker:I have never cooked with
Speaker:a stock pot in my life.
Speaker:So if I've made it to 55 without ever
Speaker:doing that I probably don't
Speaker:need to use that word at all.
Speaker:You know platter.
Speaker:I don't use that word either but that was
Speaker:another word that we taught.
Speaker:Let's just say big dish right.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I mean we're talking about the big
Speaker:dish you circum look your way
Speaker:around it until you know it.
Speaker:I learned wooden spoon
Speaker:along with regular spoon.
Speaker:I'm like so it was just it was a lot.
Speaker:It was a lot and so I can understand
Speaker:where my kids are from and so I think
Speaker:that is really helpful to them because
Speaker:and it's a language that is not from any
Speaker:family of languages that I already speak
Speaker:because I speak German
Speaker:and French and Spanish.
Speaker:So an English and it
Speaker:doesn't come from any of those.
Speaker:It's an Arabic base.
Speaker:It's a Semitic based
Speaker:language with Italian thrown in.
Speaker:So it's just very different and it's a
Speaker:category for language which is you know
Speaker:German is the hardest one I've learned
Speaker:before and that's only
Speaker:a category to language.
Speaker:So I jumped a couple categories.
Speaker:I haven't got to the five ones.
Speaker:That's the Chinese and Arabic I think our
Speaker:fives and Japanese Japanese
Speaker:Japanese with a five or a four.
Speaker:But I did some Arabic and boy I would put
Speaker:Arabic in level four because you know
Speaker:it's basically the same alphabet.
Speaker:Japanese will throw you for
Speaker:a loop but it's so much fun.
Speaker:Oh Arabic is not the same alphabet.
Speaker:Yes it's basically the same alphabet but
Speaker:backwards and incurs
Speaker:of it is easy to teach.
Speaker:It's fun.
Speaker:Those letters don't look
Speaker:anything like my alphabet.
Speaker:Maltese is actually Arabic written in
Speaker:Latin letters though.
Speaker:Oh that makes it easy.
Speaker:Yeah that does make it easier but all the
Speaker:grammars from Arabic but
Speaker:let's get to our topic today.
Speaker:So movie talk.
Speaker:Let me first start because I forgot his
Speaker:name and I'm horrible.
Speaker:If you listen to his podcast you know I'm
Speaker:horrible with names.
Speaker:I'm horrible horrible horrible.
Speaker:So the only reason I remember Pamela's
Speaker:name is because it's
Speaker:written on my screen every day.
Speaker:It's written right there.
Speaker:It's written right there.
Speaker:But the guy who
Speaker:invented he's now retired.
Speaker:He was an ESL teacher and he took
Speaker:objection with us calling it movie talk.
Speaker:Right because I do movie talk.
Speaker:I do it the way he intended but a lot of
Speaker:people swapped and did something modified
Speaker:it and he said yeah.
Speaker:Movie talk.
Speaker:So let me define movie talk is taken
Speaker:either a full length movie or shorts.
Speaker:It doesn't matter that and you are
Speaker:narrating over on top of it but you are
Speaker:not targeting anything.
Speaker:You are picking it solely based on either
Speaker:the culture or the
Speaker:interest level of your students.
Speaker:You're not looking for a video goes I
Speaker:need to teach family vocabulary.
Speaker:Let me look for a family video.
Speaker:It's completely untargeted.
Speaker:And it's really you know it's practiced
Speaker:over and over again.
Speaker:So kids become more fluent and it only
Speaker:goes up to intermediate low that you he
Speaker:said you don't get any benefits beyond
Speaker:intermediate low through the movie.
Speaker:You got to stop at that point.
Speaker:It doesn't does not work well for
Speaker:intermediate mid and above.
Speaker:Now what they modified is
Speaker:what they call now clip chat.
Speaker:And that is targeted where someone goes
Speaker:through and it's deliberately trying to
Speaker:teach a set of vocabulary.
Speaker:They are looking for a video that
Speaker:actually targets that vocabulary and it's
Speaker:regardless of the interest level of the
Speaker:students and for me I'm going to say why
Speaker:don't do that is because if I don't have
Speaker:the interest of the students that I'm
Speaker:just wasting my time.
Speaker:And the kids kind of know when you're
Speaker:force feeding them vocabulary that's so
Speaker:it doesn't really work for me that way
Speaker:I'm looking for something where the kids
Speaker:are going to laugh or enjoy the video or
Speaker:it's got some cultural relevance to it
Speaker:and then that's how I do that.
Speaker:That's the way it works for me.
Speaker:And then my kids look forward to them and
Speaker:I don't do them all the time.
Speaker:I do a maybe four times a year.
Speaker:It's a break from what we
Speaker:all what we otherwise do.
Speaker:That's kind of how I just want to
Speaker:differentiate between the two things.
Speaker:So the techniques that we're talking
Speaker:about the stuff that we're
Speaker:talking about work for both.
Speaker:But just please for the respect of the
Speaker:guy who invented the thing
Speaker:call it the right when it is.
Speaker:It's either movie talk if you do it the
Speaker:way that he intended or it's clip chat if
Speaker:we've done the modified version where you
Speaker:are targeting vocabulary.
Speaker:So with that out of the way a little
Speaker:disclaimer who would like to go first and
Speaker:tell us how they got into movie talks.
Speaker:I remember my very specific case but go
Speaker:ahead who wants to go first.
Speaker:Let Liz go first. Liz you were talking
Speaker:about your college course.
Speaker:Yeah so I've always used film in the
Speaker:classroom but back in the day you had to
Speaker:personally move the
Speaker:television monitor to the class.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:And the video tape and all that kind of
Speaker:stuff you know so it was a big deal.
Speaker:But I think all clips and
Speaker:all movies are a big deal.
Speaker:It's always an emotional experience for
Speaker:the student and I'd like to just give a
Speaker:little shout out to a colleague of mine.
Speaker:He doesn't teach foreign language.
Speaker:He is a teacher with autism.
Speaker:Oh I'm moving this wrong way.
Speaker:Just wrote this book called Seeing People
Speaker:and in the book is a QR code to a giant
Speaker:diagram which shows how
Speaker:his autistic brain works.
Speaker:He teaches things like like film like one
Speaker:of them is Encanto for social
Speaker:relationships and his name is Jeff Brown
Speaker:and I really recommend people look at a
Speaker:film carefully to see what is the social
Speaker:connection that's happening there.
Speaker:If it's a giant film you'll probably want
Speaker:to talk about history and other cultural
Speaker:things but all that scaffolding up front
Speaker:before you see a big film
Speaker:and then for clips I mean for clip chat
Speaker:you don't need to do
Speaker:a lot of scaffolding.
Speaker:You just kind of go to the clip and it
Speaker:serves your purpose and it's fun.
Speaker:And it's you know I
Speaker:wouldn't even call it a break.
Speaker:For me movies are dessert and I never
Speaker:give a movie to a sub.
Speaker:I am there.
Speaker:Oh yeah absolutely.
Speaker:No I agree.
Speaker:I don't do the movies for the subs either
Speaker:because that just gives them an excuse to
Speaker:miss have mischievous intentions.
Speaker:It's actually it's an
Speaker:insult to the students.
Speaker:It doesn't respect their time.
Speaker:They're not moving forward
Speaker:in their in their curriculum.
Speaker:Yeah no it's this movies are for me.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:How about you Pamela.
Speaker:All right.
Speaker:Well you have to remember before I became
Speaker:a teacher I was a professional translator
Speaker:and the whole reason I became a
Speaker:professional translator was because I
Speaker:wanted to watch more movies.
Speaker:Okay so I have translated
Speaker:150 movies professionally.
Speaker:It turns out I have an
Speaker:Internet movie database page.
Speaker:Who knew.
Speaker:But when I became a teacher of course
Speaker:like naturally I was going to gravitate
Speaker:towards movies that just makes sense
Speaker:because that's that's a
Speaker:window into the culture right.
Speaker:Liz you are absolutely right.
Speaker:When I first started teaching I was a sub
Speaker:and when I got a movie like oh I'm a sub
Speaker:and I have to show a movie.
Speaker:That's when the kids are trying to sneak
Speaker:out their cell phones and the days before
Speaker:the cell phones they were doing their
Speaker:math homework and I'm like they're just
Speaker:not focusing on the movie but this movie
Speaker:could teach them so much
Speaker:if they just pay attention.
Speaker:So what am I going to do differently when
Speaker:I get my own classroom
Speaker:and see what else do I want.
Speaker:I have so many thoughts of my head.
Speaker:I apologize for my coughing.
Speaker:I'm getting over a terrible cold.
Speaker:I thought I had dodged
Speaker:a bullet but I hadn't.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So to me when I show a movie I'm not
Speaker:showing I'm not putting on a Disney movie
Speaker:and changing the length.
Speaker:I'm not saying it's not a movie.
Speaker:I'm saying it's a language of French.
Speaker:Forget that.
Speaker:When I show a movie it has got to be
Speaker:culturally relevant.
Speaker:It can't be.
Speaker:Oh I know you've seen this in English.
Speaker:I'm going to show it to you in Japanese.
Speaker:No no no it's got to be culturally
Speaker:relevant because I want to teach the
Speaker:culture while I teach the language.
Speaker:So to me that's very important.
Speaker:And I take a little
Speaker:bit different approach.
Speaker:See if it gets the right button.
Speaker:No I did hit the right button.
Speaker:So I'll tell you I remember I can't
Speaker:remember which conference it was but it
Speaker:was a conference and Michelle Whaley
Speaker:presented movie talk back
Speaker:before anybody had heard of it.
Speaker:I don't know how she discovered it though
Speaker:the guy who invented it I
Speaker:believe also taught in Alaska.
Speaker:I could be wrong there but I know it was
Speaker:at least up in the Northwest somewhere.
Speaker:So I do know that he was a college
Speaker:professor and they showed us the video on
Speaker:black hole where it's the original
Speaker:classic one where the guy has a Xerox of
Speaker:a black hole and he puts his hand in and
Speaker:his hand like goes through third
Speaker:dimension and he can pick things out
Speaker:through the hole and stuff like that.
Speaker:So I'm not going to spoil it.
Speaker:There's it's a fun video.
Speaker:That's my first exposure to it.
Speaker:She demonstrated and then I did it in my
Speaker:classroom and the first time
Speaker:I did it was an ultimate fail.
Speaker:I taught middle school kids and I didn't
Speaker:have to wheel out the projector.
Speaker:So that was good and I tried doing the
Speaker:pause and stop and rewind and pause and
Speaker:stop the live and this is what my middle
Speaker:school kids kept selling.
Speaker:Just show us the video.
Speaker:They couldn't handle the stop rewind
Speaker:because they didn't understand the whole
Speaker:point and so I wasn't the only one who
Speaker:experienced this when we started doing
Speaker:movie talks a lot of teachers were
Speaker:getting this kind of thing because the
Speaker:kids didn't realize what the point was
Speaker:when the inventor did it.
Speaker:He was a college professor.
Speaker:So the kids weren't
Speaker:they're not kids anymore.
Speaker:They didn't have an attention span type
Speaker:of thing and they were
Speaker:there more for their paying.
Speaker:So they're more there for the education.
Speaker:Whereas our kids are not they're being
Speaker:dragged into the classroom.
Speaker:Many of them so they just wanted to get
Speaker:to the to the end of
Speaker:the the end of the video.
Speaker:So then how we adapted and I did this and
Speaker:other teachers started doing the same
Speaker:thing was we took
Speaker:screenshots of the video beforehand.
Speaker:Yeah and then we talked about them.
Speaker:Number one that was easier for a couple
Speaker:reasons not having to you know all I
Speaker:rewinded too far back or I fast forwarded
Speaker:too far back or I didn't
Speaker:pause at the right moment.
Speaker:So that set that out there.
Speaker:And so I did the screenshots and then I
Speaker:right before the punch line because I
Speaker:like animated shorts.
Speaker:I'm not going for the culture.
Speaker:I teach culture in other ways but I'm
Speaker:going for the animated shorts.
Speaker:I'm going for the laugh.
Speaker:I'm going for the high interest level for
Speaker:the kids that they want to know about it.
Speaker:So the right before the punch line I will
Speaker:show the video in full without talking
Speaker:over it just let him see the video and
Speaker:then I do the punch lines screenshot.
Speaker:We talk about that one at the end for me
Speaker:and I know I'm the unusual one.
Speaker:I take a week to two weeks to teach one
Speaker:three minute video because I make like a
Speaker:hundred and fifty screenshots because
Speaker:there's so much that are going on and I
Speaker:can milk it and work it
Speaker:and milk it and work it.
Speaker:And then at the end I rewrite it.
Speaker:I write it as a text so
Speaker:they can read it as well.
Speaker:So I get at least a week if not two weeks
Speaker:on a three minute video and then I spend
Speaker:a lot of time going on YouTube looking
Speaker:for animated shorts and my qualifications
Speaker:are it can't have any sound other than
Speaker:sound effects or music.
Speaker:I want no dialogue because it interferes
Speaker:with what we're doing and I have a whole
Speaker:bunch of different ones.
Speaker:Some are animated some are not
Speaker:some I've got some from Asia.
Speaker:I've got one about it's a monster and
Speaker:she's blind and she's selling dumplings
Speaker:and he's throwing teeth
Speaker:in there in his little jar.
Speaker:He's taking his teeth out and throwing
Speaker:them in there and she thinks
Speaker:she's making all kinds of money.
Speaker:She doesn't realize that she's making it.
Speaker:She's only he's only getting teeth in
Speaker:there and then he ran out of teeth and so
Speaker:he's got seven eyes.
Speaker:He gives two of his eyes to her and she
Speaker:can now see and now she's terrified of
Speaker:him because it's a monster and then it
Speaker:comes out as a happy ending at the end.
Speaker:I have different ones I go on YouTube I
Speaker:find them and then here's my
Speaker:recommendation download them go to a
Speaker:search site and go to find them.
Speaker:Oh my god one time I'm doing a movie talk
Speaker:and vaping had just become a thing and I
Speaker:had to sit through the vaping commercial
Speaker:and I'm like forget it.
Speaker:I'm a pirate guys from now on I'm
Speaker:pirating everything.
Speaker:I'm a professional educator.
Speaker:There is no way I'm letting my kids see
Speaker:another vaping commercial.
Speaker:So yes absolutely I pay for YouTube so I
Speaker:don't have those commercials but what
Speaker:comes in at the end the end the suggested
Speaker:videos afterwards
Speaker:might not be appropriate.
Speaker:That's true and my biggest thing though
Speaker:is is twofold the Internet's out and I
Speaker:had a whole plan or they
Speaker:remove the video that happens.
Speaker:Yeah so I download when I have a whole
Speaker:folder on my Google
Speaker:Drive of all my movie talks.
Speaker:Most of my never taught their potential
Speaker:movie talks for me to do.
Speaker:But at least I have them because when I
Speaker:find the good ones I want to save them
Speaker:and keep them or if someone suggests them
Speaker:but I like I said earlier I never ever
Speaker:ever ever pick one based
Speaker:on thematic vocabulary.
Speaker:If it's family if I'm teaching family I
Speaker:can add that in any movie talk.
Speaker:We can add that to anyone but when it
Speaker:comes and I'm losing my voice
Speaker:to Pamela bad for a podcast.
Speaker:So I just find something is going to be
Speaker:highly interesting to the
Speaker:students and I do take it back.
Speaker:There is one cultural one that I do.
Speaker:It's a real it's a news showing of
Speaker:running of the Bulls.
Speaker:Oh yeah so I do that.
Speaker:Well the reason I choose this one is
Speaker:because the one of the
Speaker:guys gets his comeuppance.
Speaker:Yeah, the bull go gets his revenge on him
Speaker:and he actually gets his
Speaker:pants off is not naked.
Speaker:He's got his underwear on.
Speaker:No but I think I show that one too.
Speaker:Yeah, so the kids love it because they're
Speaker:like and then the pants come
Speaker:off and it's kind of funny.
Speaker:I'm like he got what he deserved.
Speaker:He got what he deserved.
Speaker:So that's when I do show and that little
Speaker:punch line is when
Speaker:the guy loses his pants.
Speaker:It's kind of funny that he jumps over the
Speaker:fence to get out of there.
Speaker:Yeah, I think I show that one too.
Speaker:Yeah, so that's similar to you.
Speaker:I'm similar to you that I
Speaker:take a million screenshots first.
Speaker:Now the way I kind of stumbled upon all
Speaker:this was I took a class with Bryce
Speaker:Headstrom many many years ago and he was
Speaker:talking about embedded reading and I was
Speaker:like I love embedded reading everything.
Speaker:I thought you know what I should do that
Speaker:with movies too because sometimes I show
Speaker:a movie and the kids are just it's just a
Speaker:little too n plus 15 of you know like out
Speaker:of their zone of
Speaker:proximal development, right?
Speaker:So I do I make I take all my screenshots
Speaker:and I make an embedded reading of the
Speaker:five minutes that we're going to watch or
Speaker:the 10 minutes that we're
Speaker:going to watch or whatever.
Speaker:So I just do it in little chunks and
Speaker:while we do the embedded reading I can do
Speaker:all my circling if I need to or whatever
Speaker:but the students understand the basic of
Speaker:the story and then
Speaker:you're absolutely right.
Speaker:I don't give the punch line while I'm
Speaker:like doing my little thing there and then
Speaker:I show that one that I have to make some
Speaker:predictions also like before.
Speaker:We even start I'm like
Speaker:okay here's a picture.
Speaker:What do you think is going to happen?
Speaker:What words are you going to listen for
Speaker:and at this point they're allowed to
Speaker:write in English little notes to
Speaker:themselves because I feel like if they
Speaker:think it's going to be about a gorilla
Speaker:and they don't know the word for gorilla
Speaker:if they write it down and they're
Speaker:listening for the word gorilla when they
Speaker:hear it they'll make that
Speaker:connection a bit stronger.
Speaker:So I do that and then I show them the
Speaker:clip and then I have them partner up and
Speaker:talk about if their predictions were
Speaker:right or not and what they need to adjust
Speaker:what they what they now that they've seen
Speaker:it what what do they expect from it and
Speaker:then if if it's a good clip and the
Speaker:students are really into it I'll show it
Speaker:to them again so they get to hear all
Speaker:that vocabulary one more time.
Speaker:Yeah I think it's really good I did it
Speaker:that I don't do an embedded reading I
Speaker:just do a reading but I do it afterwards
Speaker:after we've already gone through the
Speaker:video so they can kind of see because I
Speaker:know I cannot make a word my
Speaker:own unless I see it written out.
Speaker:It's the same way with names they stick
Speaker:better if I can see them spelled out I
Speaker:don't know why that is
Speaker:with my brain but like when I.
Speaker:You need that you need many different
Speaker:modalities until you understand something
Speaker:so I know some people only they only do
Speaker:their TPRS by talking I always have
Speaker:things written on the board because I
Speaker:feel like students need they need some
Speaker:kind of visual support when they're
Speaker:hearing something and if they're if we're
Speaker:just reading something they need some
Speaker:kind of auditory
Speaker:support you know and all that.
Speaker:Yeah I forgot the method I can picture it
Speaker:again I know it it's just audio method
Speaker:what is that method called.
Speaker:The audio link will method no not audio
Speaker:link will just like they
Speaker:have a whole series of.
Speaker:Pimsler that's a Pimsler Pimsler Pimsler
Speaker:okay yeah so it frustrated me because I
Speaker:you can't find anything in Maltese on
Speaker:this side of the planet you just cannot
Speaker:find anything and I knew Maltese was a
Speaker:die an ancient dialect of Arabic so I
Speaker:thought if I learned some Arabic that it
Speaker:would help me with my Maltese so I tried
Speaker:listening to Pimsler and when I'm driving
Speaker:and such in the car but.
Speaker:Without the confirmation of the sounds
Speaker:with the letters absolutely it was
Speaker:frustrating me I couldn't tell if they're
Speaker:pronouncing an R or an L because those
Speaker:are very similar letters in the mouth and
Speaker:so I could never tell how they were
Speaker:pronouncing it and I was frustrated and
Speaker:the only written
Speaker:versions of Pimsler were.
Speaker:Against copyright when they transcribe
Speaker:some people transcribe them but that was
Speaker:against the copyright because Pimsler
Speaker:only wants the auditory.
Speaker:Right nothing else yeah but I couldn't
Speaker:tell and so really frustrated me more
Speaker:than anything with those
Speaker:that type of thing I need.
Speaker:I'm not necessarily need a picture but I
Speaker:need to see how it's spelled so that I
Speaker:can attach the sounds with the letters
Speaker:and have them in my brain that way and
Speaker:it's very long that
Speaker:way with Mandarin yeah.
Speaker:I just.
Speaker:Yeah it's the French classroom in the
Speaker:Japanese classroom yeah that's a lot of
Speaker:audio input before you can actually spell
Speaker:the words or even read the words.
Speaker:Yeah I had several ideas on first of all
Speaker:I was counting how many of your sweet
Speaker:sixteen verbs you use as you described
Speaker:the monster in the dumpling.
Speaker:And I mean you did the whole thing it
Speaker:would work great for them.
Speaker:Just need to teach dumpling to sell and
Speaker:maybe teeth you know that's an excellent
Speaker:example of how any video can work itself
Speaker:into your classroom.
Speaker:Absolutely yeah absolutely absolutely and
Speaker:those words I don't care I call those
Speaker:throw away words I don't expect you to
Speaker:know him after the story
Speaker:if you do that's a bonus.
Speaker:But I just need them to express the story
Speaker:and I always try to find the simplest
Speaker:like one teacher one teacher told me we
Speaker:were working together and
Speaker:she goes why do you call.
Speaker:Bare feet naked feet.
Speaker:I said because I didn't want to teach you
Speaker:know the actual word for bare foot it's a
Speaker:much more complicated word than if I just
Speaker:say pierce this new those.
Speaker:You know I can just say that and be done
Speaker:with it they get the idea and I'm also
Speaker:teaching circumlocution as well yeah and
Speaker:I don't want to go into that when they're
Speaker:not going to use that word.
Speaker:Otherwise where I can say you know.
Speaker:It's just because I don't like that word
Speaker:I go well then don't use it use whenever
Speaker:you want but that's what I used and I was
Speaker:teaching middle school kids and so they
Speaker:say naked their minds perk anyways and
Speaker:we're just talking about
Speaker:feet here you know nothing.
Speaker:Nothing nothing you know tawdry or
Speaker:anything like that but I do that to kind
Speaker:of simplify the language for them and I
Speaker:have to teach them the
Speaker:exact words and I think it was.
Speaker:God I'm gonna mess up his name too I can
Speaker:picture looking right at him.
Speaker:You need a cheat sheet I do I'm horrible
Speaker:with names and I apologize to everybody
Speaker:that I'm messing up your name why am I
Speaker:think he's a French teacher.
Speaker:Ben Slavik.
Speaker:It's really hard names I can see him and
Speaker:it's like my tongue is spinning like
Speaker:spinning wheels and I can't
Speaker:get the thing Ben Slavik said.
Speaker:Sometimes there are words it makes no
Speaker:point in trying to look them up if you
Speaker:don't know them just keep them in English
Speaker:and he was using snail
Speaker:as a example he goes.
Speaker:I just need this for this little moment
Speaker:the kids asking about a snail we don't
Speaker:need to know what that word is it doesn't
Speaker:matter I'm not going to take the time to
Speaker:look it up just keep it in English and
Speaker:let it go after that
Speaker:so sometimes words are.
Speaker:That works well also I usually like to
Speaker:look up my words but I try to keep
Speaker:everything as simple
Speaker:for comes up in there.
Speaker:That like a dumpling or something I
Speaker:wouldn't say a dumpling I would say
Speaker:something like just food.
Speaker:Right something like that I don't have to
Speaker:actually go into I'm not teaching Asian
Speaker:culture so the idea of a dumpling is not
Speaker:you know not important at that point so
Speaker:that's kind of what I.
Speaker:How I handle those things and I think
Speaker:that's good for the kids to when you get
Speaker:them code switching because.
Speaker:I'm so many students will just stop dead
Speaker:when they don't know a word.
Speaker:Yeah so if you can encourage them okay
Speaker:say it in English but put it into French
Speaker:grammar say it in English but put it into
Speaker:Japanese grammar whatever.
Speaker:Yeah I do that you don't stop dead and
Speaker:that's that's when we can start getting
Speaker:them to circle acute and everything but I
Speaker:do think that's very
Speaker:important skill that.
Speaker:Man when I'm arguing with my colleagues
Speaker:about the textbook and they want to teach
Speaker:that word for deep pot and they want to
Speaker:teach the word for clam go to
Speaker:and cheese fork and all that.
Speaker:And I'm like no no the students don't
Speaker:need that and they're not going to
Speaker:remember it and they're going to get
Speaker:frustrated and we don't want to get that
Speaker:we don't want to raise their effective
Speaker:filter we want them communicating.
Speaker:And this is one thing
Speaker:that I disagree with.
Speaker:I'm.
Speaker:Crashing about that my classroom should
Speaker:not necessarily be 100 percent.
Speaker:Comprehensible.
Speaker:Because.
Speaker:Because here's my thing.
Speaker:Because like the teachers would always
Speaker:tell me my group like you can't put that
Speaker:on the test because we didn't teach it.
Speaker:I'm like but it's so obvious from the
Speaker:context clues and in real life nobody's
Speaker:going to work to make their language 100
Speaker:percent comprehensible to a foreigner who
Speaker:doesn't speak the language they're not
Speaker:going to do that so instead of having my
Speaker:kids freak out in public
Speaker:when they don't understand.
Speaker:I let them have a mild freak out in class
Speaker:they can always ask me but I do put words
Speaker:in a test that aren't necessarily been
Speaker:explicitly taught before no question on
Speaker:the test is reliant upon that word so
Speaker:it's not being unfair.
Speaker:But I want them to know oh it's OK that I
Speaker:don't know every word I still got the
Speaker:gist of what's going on I got the idea
Speaker:because in real life you know I am not a
Speaker:fluent speaker of any other languages
Speaker:that I speak I don't know every word a
Speaker:native speaker uses with me but I
Speaker:understand what they're saying.
Speaker:And I don't freak out about that my kids
Speaker:are this should be the same way I don't
Speaker:want them to freak out because they used
Speaker:a word they've never used like they used
Speaker:felith instead of contento I don't want
Speaker:them to freak out from that.
Speaker:I want them to use context clues to
Speaker:figure it out and realize I don't need to
Speaker:know every word so we always got in the
Speaker:fights with my colleagues even my CI
Speaker:colleagues you can't put that word in the
Speaker:story because they don't know that word
Speaker:I'm like but no question
Speaker:is dependent upon that word.
Speaker:See this is part of my problem is we
Speaker:should be working at i plus one right.
Speaker:Which means there's going to be a couple
Speaker:of words that you don't know you're going
Speaker:to have to figure out from context so.
Speaker:I've been given my students parental
Speaker:credit if they didn't like my sentence on
Speaker:a test and they changed it somehow so it
Speaker:makes sense by circular.
Speaker:Yeah you didn't remember the word I
Speaker:wanted well I'll give you some credit for
Speaker:getting around that.
Speaker:Yeah yeah absolutely the AP test does the
Speaker:AP test does that they give credit for
Speaker:circumlocution they give
Speaker:a lot of credit for that.
Speaker:Because in real life even in your native
Speaker:language you don't know what every word
Speaker:is in sometimes like me when I forget
Speaker:words because it's not just names of
Speaker:people its names of things like stores I
Speaker:forget the word for target
Speaker:and walmart and coke and Pepsi.
Speaker:I have some kind of there is something in
Speaker:my brain that says names do not stick so
Speaker:I mean I describe them like that store
Speaker:that's got the red target on it and
Speaker:they're like target.
Speaker:But we do that in our own language so
Speaker:it's it's something that is a skill
Speaker:that's really important to be able to do.
Speaker:Absolutely 100% every five years did you
Speaker:have you noticed that we
Speaker:all have to learn a new thing.
Speaker:Yeah oh yeah right oh yeah and sometimes
Speaker:you roll our eyes right but Scott well
Speaker:you're talking about
Speaker:your monster and dumplings.
Speaker:You know when you hit it several times in
Speaker:a row you are doing the thing that made
Speaker:the most sense to me which
Speaker:is the eight intelligences.
Speaker:Math intelligence art intelligence music
Speaker:intelligence social intelligence I mean I
Speaker:just really love that theory and we for
Speaker:language teachers are the luckiest
Speaker:teachers of all because we can teach
Speaker:whatever we want if you like.
Speaker:That's if you like soccer if you like my
Speaker:and you know culture you can teach it you
Speaker:can teach you that is absolutely true.
Speaker:And we are the only almost the only
Speaker:lessons film class the only subject that
Speaker:has showing movies as a standard.
Speaker:So when math start showing some movie
Speaker:right before Christmas because they are
Speaker:checked out they are not sticking within
Speaker:what they're supposed to the curriculum
Speaker:where I can show a movie and put it in
Speaker:the target language and it could be a
Speaker:Disney movie which is fine because one of
Speaker:the ones I know family you don't like the
Speaker:Disney movies because it doesn't have a.
Speaker:I love Disney I'm a huge Disney fan but
Speaker:I'm not going to show them in class but I
Speaker:do at the end of level one I show Nemo.
Speaker:I put it in Spanish it's got the English
Speaker:subtitles and here's why I do that one
Speaker:because at the end of level one.
Speaker:Students can understand the Spanish in
Speaker:Nemo most of the kids not every sentence
Speaker:but it's really low it is a really low
Speaker:language is not a lot of difficult like
Speaker:it's not a lot of language in that movie
Speaker:and so they feel successful at the end
Speaker:when they can watch that
Speaker:movie the whole hour and a half.
Speaker:And then they know and I know they're
Speaker:getting it because when they all tell me
Speaker:you know he inked himself in Spanish
Speaker:because they learned that little phrase
Speaker:they like that or they go when I have a
Speaker:kid we did it once and I think it's a
Speaker:seagulls one of the seagulls farts at the
Speaker:end and the bubbles come up and in
Speaker:Spanish he goes he goes he leaned on and
Speaker:so I have a kid a kid
Speaker:farted in class he goes.
Speaker:Ke lindo.
Speaker:And it was just you know so they're
Speaker:picking up things too from that and they
Speaker:are basing a lot of it on familiarity
Speaker:with the movie because most kids have
Speaker:seen it but they can actually understand
Speaker:a lot of that one other days I have not
Speaker:found another cartoon.
Speaker:That is so comprehensible for a level one
Speaker:where Nemo is when I'm listening to like
Speaker:yeah my kids know that they know a
Speaker:version of that they can understand that
Speaker:and then they can prove it they prove it
Speaker:to me by their picking up some language
Speaker:do from it so I do use some of those
Speaker:things to base off familiarity but I.
Speaker:And I like as I said I like that one
Speaker:because the kids at the end feel
Speaker:successful when they can understand a
Speaker:portion of that video whether or not can
Speaker:understand any of the superhero videos
Speaker:that they watch they're not going to an
Speaker:even Shrek is too difficult for them to
Speaker:understand but Nemo
Speaker:really works well for that.
Speaker:Well you bring up a good point about the
Speaker:math class putting on a
Speaker:movie and it's it's break time.
Speaker:And I've certainly I've certainly seen
Speaker:that in other classes and I think this is
Speaker:one of the challenges we have is it's not
Speaker:just the admin walking past our door
Speaker:thinking oh you're
Speaker:it's break time for you.
Speaker:It's also the students in class it takes
Speaker:a while for us to program deprogram them
Speaker:that hey I'm putting on a movie right now
Speaker:but this is not break time I need your
Speaker:attention because this is going to help
Speaker:you learn you need to hear the language
Speaker:you need to hear the language in context
Speaker:this is going to help you learn faster
Speaker:but the students I initially like the
Speaker:first time you do it it's
Speaker:it's always a little bit of a.
Speaker:Like okay I know you're expecting this
Speaker:but no this is this is
Speaker:a work time right now.
Speaker:And I think also with parents because
Speaker:they question too because when the kids
Speaker:shared a picture with his parents of
Speaker:another kid playing twister in the
Speaker:classroom and the parents emailed me goes
Speaker:what does this have to do with Spanish
Speaker:and I'm like wow colors and body parts
Speaker:body parts what else.
Speaker:So we are playing a game we're playing it
Speaker:in Spanish they're practicing left right
Speaker:foot hand and sometimes I play advanced
Speaker:twister we have to use knees and elbows
Speaker:and chins and stuff like that once they
Speaker:know the basics and then the colors I'm
Speaker:like yeah we don't have to be strict in a
Speaker:textbook memorizing lists and making it
Speaker:boring we can do all
Speaker:different kinds of things.
Speaker:You know I play heads up seven up and
Speaker:duck to goose in Spanish Pato Pato Ganso
Speaker:or heads up seven up because I think so
Speaker:and so talk touch you know
Speaker:okay I can't say that out loud.
Speaker:I don't know how to say that name without
Speaker:someone being inappropriate but you know
Speaker:I think I think so and so chose me you
Speaker:know that kind of thing in there because
Speaker:it's a fun way the kids can learn and use
Speaker:things so same thing with movies kids
Speaker:like videos they like YouTube they like
Speaker:movies and if we can use
Speaker:that to keep their attention.
Speaker:To be able to learn the language that's
Speaker:what we do and so I do the games and you
Speaker:know my friend my kids love you know even
Speaker:my new school loves that sink and swim I
Speaker:learned from Pamela.
Speaker:They love that game and so lots of
Speaker:different things you can do so it doesn't
Speaker:have to be all dry and crusty you can
Speaker:find ways and Pamela is the queen of
Speaker:games she game fights her old classroom
Speaker:so I love games so it works really really
Speaker:well kids can have fun
Speaker:and learn at the same time.
Speaker:And I think movie talks
Speaker:do that really really well.
Speaker:Yeah yeah and if our goal is
Speaker:differentiation that every student is
Speaker:getting what they need games do that
Speaker:beautifully because the students who are
Speaker:high flyers are going to use higher
Speaker:language and the students who are
Speaker:struggling are just going to
Speaker:do the base to win the game.
Speaker:But when you talk also if it's a visual
Speaker:the students have that support there and
Speaker:so if they don't understand every single
Speaker:line of dialogue coming out of the
Speaker:characters mouth they can tell what's
Speaker:going on because of the picture.
Speaker:Absolutely and I think this is where you
Speaker:know why it works so well for so many
Speaker:students because this adds that visual
Speaker:layer on there and not
Speaker:just a static visual layer.
Speaker:We've got motion up there because it's
Speaker:one thing to have just a static picture
Speaker:up there. You know there's I can't
Speaker:remember the series of vocabulary books
Speaker:but I love them their picture vocabulary
Speaker:books they've got them in all the
Speaker:different languages.
Speaker:I love them. They've got way too much
Speaker:vocabulary them but they've got it's just
Speaker:a static scene of like a house and
Speaker:everything in the house is
Speaker:labeled. I love those books.
Speaker:Thousand words in Spanish. It's not that
Speaker:one. It's not that serious though I can't
Speaker:think what it is up top my head but I
Speaker:love them. I have a Spanish one sitting
Speaker:at school. I love those books.
Speaker:It helps with the visual but it's static
Speaker:and there's something else it's one for a
Speaker:static image and another one completely
Speaker:when it's an animated image. It's kind of
Speaker:like I remember the film strips when I
Speaker:was a kid the film strips were just the
Speaker:static with the narration over it.
Speaker:It was a static picture and then you like
Speaker:the videos that we have to watch in
Speaker:school that were like yeah.
Speaker:And then then there is the projector and
Speaker:they brought the projector out you knew
Speaker:was actually going to be moving pictures.
Speaker:It wasn't just going to be like a slide
Speaker:show with narration over top of it.
Speaker:So I mean there's just a difference
Speaker:there. So I mean I do love movie talks
Speaker:and to be honest if you're using CI and
Speaker:using stories what we do every day is
Speaker:absolutely the same thing whether it's a
Speaker:picture talk or it's a movie talk.
Speaker:Or if you're doing a song you're telling
Speaker:a story it's just what you use as your
Speaker:source material changes but the kids
Speaker:think it's different even though it's not
Speaker:because the source material has changed.
Speaker:But what we do is we're still telling a
Speaker:story. It's just not made up by the kids
Speaker:this time it's coming from the video or
Speaker:it's coming from a picture or it's coming
Speaker:from a song or whatever
Speaker:you happen to be using.
Speaker:But I like it to break up what I'm doing
Speaker:because it does it takes a lot. I think
Speaker:we talk for me is twofold. It can be a
Speaker:scaffolded story if you're not
Speaker:comfortable telling stories
Speaker:of your kids it's scaffolded.
Speaker:But for me it takes much more energy and
Speaker:work to do a movie talk than for me to do
Speaker:a story with the kids. I don't know why
Speaker:that is but it does it takes more for me.
Speaker:So for me because I like
Speaker:it all those great shots.
Speaker:It's a change but I enjoy doing the movie
Speaker:talks every single time.
Speaker:Excuse me. What about you Liz what are
Speaker:you thinking. Yeah. Well I was thinking
Speaker:with you. You could make a story based on
Speaker:a movie that you don't tell the kids
Speaker:about or even just a clip right. And you
Speaker:could make it go a thousand different
Speaker:directions you know.
Speaker:And then when they finally see the clip
Speaker:maybe weeks later it'll bring back that
Speaker:emotional element all those vocabulary
Speaker:words and once again you know viewing a
Speaker:film is an emotional experience.
Speaker:I listen to you two of you talking about
Speaker:the kid you can't reach the kid that
Speaker:won't engage. Well there is a chance.
Speaker:There's a chance that showing a clip or a
Speaker:movie will give him or her that emotional
Speaker:engagement that maybe you
Speaker:aren't able to provide for them.
Speaker:Yeah I know when I first started teaching
Speaker:before I even knew about movie talk we
Speaker:would have a fun Friday and that was when
Speaker:the Simpsons were at the height. I mean
Speaker:they've been going on since I graduated
Speaker:from high school so
Speaker:they've been going since eight.
Speaker:So they've been going on for a long time.
Speaker:I think it's the longest running series
Speaker:period in history. I think there's more.
Speaker:There's others once in Japan that have
Speaker:gone longer but it's
Speaker:certainly the longest in America.
Speaker:Yeah. Okay. Maybe maybe it's just America
Speaker:but it's been on for 40 some years. And
Speaker:so I used to I had the videos of the
Speaker:Simpsons before we had you. YouTube was
Speaker:not even invented yet.
Speaker:Yeah. And you couldn't download a video
Speaker:either because I get mine now because of
Speaker:Apple because Apple you can when you
Speaker:download them and you buy them from Apple
Speaker:they have the alternate languages built
Speaker:in where if you buy them
Speaker:from Google they don't.
Speaker:So I buy them. I've got the Simpsons the
Speaker:DVD set and I would show an episode in
Speaker:the target language and a lot of kids
Speaker:liked those. You know they like the
Speaker:Simpsons they enjoyed them. So they
Speaker:perked up and they really wanted to
Speaker:understand it because we're already
Speaker:watching the Simpsons at home.
Speaker:So it wasn't something you know that was
Speaker:new to them and they they enjoyed that
Speaker:those characters and it was still simple
Speaker:enough language where
Speaker:they could understand it.
Speaker:Would you believe that I teach a German
Speaker:film in my Spanish classroom.
Speaker:A German film really. Yes one. My dear
Speaker:colleague who taught German across the
Speaker:hall from me and I would get the upper
Speaker:level kids IB AP kids
Speaker:Spanish four and five.
Speaker:Together once a year or two study a film
Speaker:by Werner Herzog. It's called a Gary the
Speaker:Wrath of God. I've seen it 50 times.
Speaker:There's so much in that film. But anyway
Speaker:it's really great when teaching about you
Speaker:know the Spanish conquest of the Americas
Speaker:and it's good from the
Speaker:German point of view.
Speaker:And we just would work together and get
Speaker:so much out of that film. And of course
Speaker:we would talk about the film in Spanish
Speaker:but it was an intense cultural experience
Speaker:for all of the students.
Speaker:When you can find a good film like that
Speaker:that makes it really powerful doesn't
Speaker:again like I chose
Speaker:that Chinese anime video.
Speaker:It doesn't have to be from the culture.
Speaker:It can be you know something that's
Speaker:really authentic and that can get that
Speaker:emotion out of the kids to get them that
Speaker:interest to want to pay attention to be
Speaker:able to understand the
Speaker:language to actually try.
Speaker:It's kind of like when the kids always
Speaker:like they think up they're getting off
Speaker:task and they go so tell us about your
Speaker:prom or your first girlfriend or
Speaker:something like that. They think they're
Speaker:getting me off topic and I tell them in
Speaker:Spanish and they're all on the edge of
Speaker:their seats trying to hear.
Speaker:And they're like beautiful. They're like
Speaker:we didn't hit anything on the agenda
Speaker:today and I'm like score because my only
Speaker:my only goal was to speak Spanish as much
Speaker:as possible in class. Yeah. Make it as
Speaker:understandable as
Speaker:possible and get engagement.
Speaker:And I got that with what I was doing so
Speaker:that was much better than
Speaker:the lesson I had planned.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And so it works out really well. You can
Speaker:get them in there. So using those other
Speaker:things really really helps. I have a lot
Speaker:of Russian and Ukrainian students who
Speaker:have a huge
Speaker:population that in our school.
Speaker:And so I'm trying to find ways to
Speaker:integrate some of that culture into my
Speaker:Spanish class to get them more engaged
Speaker:because they're usually fresh off the
Speaker:plane Russian or Ukrainians.
Speaker:When they talk to their friends are
Speaker:talking in Russian in the middle of my
Speaker:Spanish class. So you know so I'm trying
Speaker:to find a ways to engage them and make
Speaker:and bring references back to them for the
Speaker:grammar and such like that.
Speaker:And I made a we do we did a speaking test
Speaker:a couple of weeks back and my Russian
Speaker:students were making a weird mistake and
Speaker:it was like wait you're defaulting to
Speaker:English. You're not defaulting to Russian
Speaker:which is their native language and
Speaker:they're not heritage speakers.
Speaker:These are kids who spent a good portion
Speaker:of their childhood in Russia and came
Speaker:over and they are doing the date English
Speaker:style with the month and the day.
Speaker:Oh I like that's weird because English
Speaker:kids I know why English kids American
Speaker:kids result to that. But if you learned
Speaker:it as a kid day then month then why would
Speaker:you resort to English.
Speaker:But it was interesting because not all
Speaker:the Russians were doing that most of the
Speaker:Russians did it fine but I had a few that
Speaker:didn't and I double
Speaker:checked I went and checked.
Speaker:Does Russian do it the way that you know
Speaker:Spanish does it with day then month which
Speaker:90 percent of the world does it day then
Speaker:month. It's only America's
Speaker:the oddball out like usual.
Speaker:And now they do it that way too so that I
Speaker:said just use it the way you do in
Speaker:Russian just put it in Spanish words it's
Speaker:the same way as it's in Russian just put
Speaker:it in Spanish words and so that helps
Speaker:just over correction interesting.
Speaker:In your brain you've got a foreign
Speaker:language drawer and if you have studied
Speaker:German and you to a Spanish class you're
Speaker:going to go to the foreign language
Speaker:drawer for a long time until your brain
Speaker:opens a Spanish drawer so that's what
Speaker:students are doing out.
Speaker:And I constantly because I know so many
Speaker:languages I mean I don't know as many as
Speaker:you do but I am constantly comparing
Speaker:because like Maltese and Arabic do
Speaker:numbers like German with the ones before
Speaker:the tens which makes sense
Speaker:because one comes before 10.
Speaker:So I'm you know we say five and 20 that's
Speaker:how they do it and then Maltese and
Speaker:Arabic does the exact same way so I
Speaker:compare that but they do their adjectives
Speaker:like Spanish and French where they come
Speaker:after the now so I'm constantly using
Speaker:that foreign language door like you said
Speaker:to make comparisons so that I can pull
Speaker:from here pull from there
Speaker:pull from here and I remember.
Speaker:I just lost the word we
Speaker:let the word for strainer.
Speaker:In Maltese was a weird word and I saw a
Speaker:German word in it and so that made me
Speaker:think of it here it is oh it's pass a
Speaker:tour okay pass a tour is a strainer so I
Speaker:took my and tour in German is a door so I
Speaker:said it passes through the door.
Speaker:That's how I'm trying to remember that
Speaker:word right now that we're going to make
Speaker:these weird connections and using all my
Speaker:language to make it and I have to tell
Speaker:you this funny anecdote that my Maltese
Speaker:teacher told me today he goes this
Speaker:Maltese guy went to Australia and he
Speaker:needed to use word strainer and didn't
Speaker:know the word in English for a strainer
Speaker:and he said it is
Speaker:broken English he said okay.
Speaker:Noodles stay water goes.
Speaker:Yeah beautiful and so he's using the
Speaker:circle of fusion which is so valuable but
Speaker:he told me that it was really funny
Speaker:that's exactly what a
Speaker:stranger is noodle stay water goes.
Speaker:Yeah yeah and I'm sure in German as
Speaker:probably what they say because German
Speaker:describes most of the words they don't
Speaker:have words for things they
Speaker:described them it's very.
Speaker:A lot of yeah exactly they probably do
Speaker:say noodle stay water goes I don't even
Speaker:know what a straight or is in German
Speaker:again I've never needed it you know so I
Speaker:don't know those words
Speaker:don't know those words.
Speaker:We're getting close to the end so I'm
Speaker:going to ask does anybody have a favorite
Speaker:film or clip that they like to use for
Speaker:movie talk to recommend to some people.
Speaker:I got one in Japanese for pummela.
Speaker:Yeah what do you have
Speaker:Liz. The algorithm March.
Speaker:Have you heard of it. No I have. Oh it's
Speaker:hilarious and it's great for getting your
Speaker:kids up and moving. It's a row of people
Speaker:and they all do a different action as a
Speaker:things as they say things like push push
Speaker:and you're a great dude.
Speaker:And anyway I love it. We would fantasize
Speaker:about doing it at a pep rally you know
Speaker:what everything's got a little boring in
Speaker:the classroom. We put up the algorithm
Speaker:March and we would do it and the kids
Speaker:never got tired of it and they learned so
Speaker:many fun little things.
Speaker:They all memorize
Speaker:this that is great. Yeah.
Speaker:Well that reminds me ever since I broke
Speaker:my leg and my leg will not heal so it's
Speaker:I'm going on year four now of not being
Speaker:able to walk properly amputation.
Speaker:I've been there because I've been totally
Speaker:paralyzed head to toe which is why the
Speaker:leg won't heal now is because 23 years
Speaker:ago I was like we talk about the
Speaker:Simpsons. The Simpsons saves my life
Speaker:because there I was in the hospital on a
Speaker:ventilator. I don't know if you can see
Speaker:my scar here and the doctors told me I
Speaker:was going to be dead in five days and I
Speaker:knew if I could make it to 6 p.m. when
Speaker:the first Simpsons episode was on then
Speaker:I'd made it through the
Speaker:day and then at 7.30 p.m.
Speaker:there was a second Simpsons episode on
Speaker:and I was on a ventilator and I couldn't
Speaker:I couldn't speak I couldn't laugh but the
Speaker:Simpsons would make me try to laugh so I
Speaker:adore the Simpsons they saved my life
Speaker:okay because I kept me
Speaker:kept me going but anyway.
Speaker:So four years ago I could tripped over a
Speaker:student's backpack because we were
Speaker:playing a game and the students know they
Speaker:get backpacks are supposed to be against
Speaker:the wall with a student for some reason
Speaker:because just pulled her backpack out and
Speaker:I didn't notice tripped over those
Speaker:backpacks are friggin heavy.
Speaker:Broke my leg in three places and because
Speaker:I was paralyzed 23 years ago when the
Speaker:nerves haven't regrown that somehow just
Speaker:learning to walk again for the third time
Speaker:of my life has been really difficult so I
Speaker:was thinking about I was like well you
Speaker:know I'm teaching Spanish, French,
Speaker:Japanese and English now they put an
Speaker:English class on me.
Speaker:I haven't been able to carve out time to
Speaker:do the exercises that I know are
Speaker:essential so I started I went through and
Speaker:I you know I know from my days in Japan
Speaker:there's that you're tight so there's
Speaker:radio exercises and I went through the
Speaker:YouTube and I just
Speaker:scoured it for five minute.
Speaker:It's your mom in French and just five
Speaker:minute stretches in Spanish and then I
Speaker:make my students do it with me I'm like
Speaker:hey this is this is me here.
Speaker:She's your.
Speaker:She's your.
Speaker:And I put it on and they got to know
Speaker:their body parts they got to know left
Speaker:and right and up and down and they do
Speaker:whatever five minute exercise with me so
Speaker:that I get my exercise bike.
Speaker:Golly.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:So yeah there's a lot of me of that but I
Speaker:do that with all the
Speaker:languages now so I'll tell you.
Speaker:You reminded me of the year that I lost
Speaker:my voice for a whole month.
Speaker:Oh my gosh what happened.
Speaker:Just luckily it was the
Speaker:third day of the semester.
Speaker:So I had taught the hiragana half the
Speaker:hiragana chart in Japanese and I had I
Speaker:had upper level Spanish students so they
Speaker:all knew I spoke Spanish but I lost my
Speaker:voice for an entire month and I either
Speaker:silent classroom that was.
Speaker:And luckily I can type really fast but
Speaker:one of my colleagues Carrie she used to
Speaker:carry around this giant book everywhere
Speaker:she went and I would see her with that
Speaker:giant book and I finally had
Speaker:to find out what are you doing.
Speaker:She was using American sign language in
Speaker:the classroom to avoid English.
Speaker:What a treasure for the students. They
Speaker:might be working somewhere.
Speaker:And you know they could go
Speaker:to in for the price of one.
Speaker:They might be seeing a news clip with a
Speaker:translator on there you know using ASL.
Speaker:It's just like teach to your love.
Speaker:Do things out of the
Speaker:box. What can you do that.
Speaker:It'll serve the
Speaker:students for their entire life.
Speaker:I use some talk about that more because I
Speaker:dabbled in that but I found the cognitive
Speaker:load of teaching two
Speaker:languages at once was just too much.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:There was one time when I asked a
Speaker:question of the students and I didn't
Speaker:expect them to remember it was something
Speaker:like strainer. It was some esoteric word
Speaker:and I was like they're
Speaker:not going to remember it.
Speaker:I'm going to fill it in but I'm going to
Speaker:give them the wait time and I gave them
Speaker:the wait time and a student shouted it
Speaker:out at exactly the same time that I gave
Speaker:them the answer and the other students by
Speaker:reflex they shouted jinx.
Speaker:And so I was jinxed and I decided to
Speaker:reward the student because I was so
Speaker:impressed that the student remembered it.
Speaker:I was going to reward her by being jinxed
Speaker:for the rest of the class period.
Speaker:So it's a good thing I had studied the
Speaker:silent way so that I could teach class to
Speaker:entirely with no language whatsoever just
Speaker:gesturing and calling on the students and
Speaker:getting them to like truncate their sound
Speaker:and late in their song.
Speaker:It was all that silent way stuff that I
Speaker:thought I would never use
Speaker:and here I was using it.
Speaker:And I was like baby sign language you
Speaker:know like this means more because babies
Speaker:understand way more than they can say.
Speaker:Oh yeah.
Speaker:So to our students our students can
Speaker:understand a lot more than they can say.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And so I I do the ASL thing but only for
Speaker:words that I don't can't think of another
Speaker:gesture for. I try to think of a more
Speaker:logical gesture and sometimes the ASL
Speaker:ones aren't logical or at least from my
Speaker:non ASL trained brain.
Speaker:They're not logical but I've had to avoid
Speaker:like I did one for makes and it's this is
Speaker:the gesture but the kids
Speaker:took that as a dirty gesture.
Speaker:So I can't use that one anymore so now I
Speaker:use a hammer we're hammering a nail in
Speaker:and that is we're making something I use
Speaker:that one but some of the other ones I do
Speaker:use if I can't think of other ones
Speaker:because sometimes like for years years I
Speaker:couldn't think of the one for stay.
Speaker:So I guess like we firmly planted our
Speaker:feet. That's what we did right.
Speaker:From the plant our feet and
Speaker:one of the kids goes logical.
Speaker:Duh. What do you do to a dog.
Speaker:Stay.
Speaker:I'm like yeah.
Speaker:Makes sense.
Speaker:I have dogs.
Speaker:Why didn't I think of that.
Speaker:So sometimes the kids will come up with
Speaker:them sometimes I'll come up with them.
Speaker:I am not a teacher as a
Speaker:different gesture for every class.
Speaker:There are classes that do that.
Speaker:I cannot keep that many straight.
Speaker:That's crazy.
Speaker:I have the ones and the ones I've been
Speaker:using for years stick with me.
Speaker:So I know like is located.
Speaker:It's like here you're at the map at the
Speaker:mall and they have that
Speaker:little arrow right there.
Speaker:So I show them that that
Speaker:that's what we do for that one.
Speaker:So I have my gestures but I do resort to
Speaker:ASL when I can't think of and I used to
Speaker:have to look them up online but we teach
Speaker:ASL at my school so I just go down the
Speaker:hall and I go can you
Speaker:show me the gesture for this.
Speaker:So she shows me what it is.
Speaker:I'm like oh I can't
Speaker:use that one in class.
Speaker:Thank you very much.
Speaker:I'll do find something else because
Speaker:sometimes they just.
Speaker:I wait for it every year.
Speaker:The ugly moment arrives when a student
Speaker:thinks something you said or did is
Speaker:inappropriate and that's
Speaker:my moment to say nothing.
Speaker:I do or say is to be used or interpreted
Speaker:in an inappropriate way and there will be
Speaker:words in Spanish that remind you of an
Speaker:inappropriate word and absolutely not.
Speaker:We're never going to go there.
Speaker:You have to have that conversation with
Speaker:the students but you wait for the moment.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:That's an emotional hook but
Speaker:they don't always stick to it.
Speaker:So I don't.
Speaker:Plus I'm really bad.
Speaker:My friend my one of my best friend
Speaker:teachers from Vegas I taught with.
Speaker:She's like yeah you do it to yourself
Speaker:because I say things and I
Speaker:don't think like a teenager.
Speaker:And so I'll say it and then afterwards I
Speaker:see their face like oh
Speaker:crap what did I just say.
Speaker:And then I realize oh crap because like
Speaker:the first time I explain the difference
Speaker:between PELOTA and BALON in Spanish.
Speaker:I didn't know best way to explain it.
Speaker:So I said one's a small hardball and the
Speaker:other one is a ball you blow.
Speaker:And I wasn't thinking the other way but
Speaker:all the kids started cracking up.
Speaker:So now I know I'm very careful but I do
Speaker:this without thinking
Speaker:because I don't have that mind.
Speaker:I'm not always thinking like they are.
Speaker:And she goes you do it
Speaker:even at lunch with us.
Speaker:You say things were like did he just say
Speaker:what we think he just said because I'm
Speaker:not thinking that way and
Speaker:they're all so trained to think.
Speaker:So trained to think like a teenager.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And it goes on.
Speaker:Now I say a small
Speaker:noninflatable ball and an inflatable ball.
Speaker:But when I said my first year of teaching
Speaker:I wasn't thinking like that.
Speaker:So I get myself like that.
Speaker:Or we're like you guys are such children.
Speaker:Oh the best one.
Speaker:Oh the best one.
Speaker:This is so funny.
Speaker:The kid got it called.
Speaker:It's so funny.
Speaker:The kid had his he was wearing sweatpants
Speaker:and he had pulled up the legging the
Speaker:bottom of the legs past his knees.
Speaker:Try to make him shorts.
Speaker:And so I wasn't thinking I
Speaker:said pull your pants down.
Speaker:But the kids didn't know the context.
Speaker:And I'm like that's not what I meant.
Speaker:That's not what I meant.
Speaker:Your pant legs down
Speaker:pull your pant legs down.
Speaker:But in the spur of the moment you don't
Speaker:think about all the possible ways it
Speaker:could be interpreted.
Speaker:So we all got a laugh out of that one.
Speaker:I laughed too.
Speaker:So I'm like oh yeah now I hear that one.
Speaker:That one was pretty bad.
Speaker:But you know what I meant.
Speaker:You know what I meant.
Speaker:But back to our movie
Speaker:talk so we can end today.
Speaker:I'll tell you some movie
Speaker:talks that I really enjoy.
Speaker:I do like that black hole one.
Speaker:The one that was
Speaker:introduced to me by Michelle Whaley.
Speaker:I like that one.
Speaker:I like also the wildebeest one.
Speaker:That's really a simple one.
Speaker:It is two wildebeests.
Speaker:They see what looks
Speaker:like a log in the river.
Speaker:And then he's going it's a log.
Speaker:The other one goes no it's a crocodile.
Speaker:He goes no it's a log.
Speaker:No it's a crocodile.
Speaker:And then he pokes it and
Speaker:prods it and nothing moves.
Speaker:He goes see it's a log.
Speaker:And he goes oh it's a
Speaker:log and he steps on it
Speaker:and the alligator the crocodile eats him.
Speaker:And then another
Speaker:wildebeest comes in and he goes
Speaker:that's a log.
Speaker:And the other guy goes
Speaker:nope it's a crocodile.
Speaker:And it plays like that.
Speaker:I like that one.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:There's another one called car park.
Speaker:And it's about a guy who can't find his
Speaker:car in a parking lot.
Speaker:And he's trying to find his car and he's
Speaker:doing the remote control beep thing.
Speaker:But he's still not finding his car.
Speaker:So he thinks he's at his car.
Speaker:He's got his arm full of groceries.
Speaker:And there's a dog ferocious on one of the
Speaker:other cars in the car locked up.
Speaker:And he's barking at him.
Speaker:And then he realizes
Speaker:the dog can't get him.
Speaker:So he's teasing the
Speaker:dog and teasing the dog.
Speaker:And then the dog realizes if he hits this
Speaker:button the window comes down.
Speaker:And so the guy is freaking out and he's
Speaker:trying to get in his car
Speaker:but he's got the wrong
Speaker:keys for the wrong car.
Speaker:So he takes one of the
Speaker:cans from his groceries.
Speaker:He breaks the window jumps in the car hot
Speaker:wires it and then drives away.
Speaker:And the last scene is a giant black dog
Speaker:comes up from the back seat
Speaker:and the person is going "rrrrrr" because
Speaker:it's the wrong car and he didn't check.
Speaker:So that's another funny one.
Speaker:And then the other one I
Speaker:like to do is Mouse for Sale.
Speaker:I like this one
Speaker:because it's about bullying.
Speaker:It really works about bullying.
Speaker:They see this little mouse and these kids
Speaker:come in the pet shop to look at him
Speaker:and he's got these really big ears.
Speaker:They start making fun
Speaker:of him for his big ears.
Speaker:And there's a little roly poly bug who's
Speaker:also in the cage with him.
Speaker:And he's laughing at the mouse too.
Speaker:And so there's this other kid who's
Speaker:interested but
Speaker:doesn't want to buy a mouse.
Speaker:He's looking to buy something else.
Speaker:He's got these big
Speaker:headphones on his ears.
Speaker:And he says "So the mouse is
Speaker:trying to get his attention."
Speaker:So he's using this
Speaker:little...he's jumping up and down.
Speaker:He's dancing on his wheel.
Speaker:He's doing all these different things.
Speaker:And then this little bug is like driving
Speaker:him crazy and laughing at him.
Speaker:So then he just gets up.
Speaker:He takes his ear and he bats that little
Speaker:bug across the room.
Speaker:And it hits the sound on his earphones
Speaker:and turns the sound off.
Speaker:And then the kid looks over and looks at
Speaker:the mouse, picks up
Speaker:the mouse, looks at him,
Speaker:smiles, he's getting ready to buy him.
Speaker:And he takes off his earphones.
Speaker:And he's got huge ears too that pop out
Speaker:from underneath his earphones.
Speaker:And he buys the mouse and goes away.
Speaker:So that's another good one.
Speaker:It works with
Speaker:bullying and stuff like that.
Speaker:So see none of mine are
Speaker:under any thematic topics.
Speaker:But I can teach whatever I
Speaker:want to teach with those.
Speaker:And I really like...oh there's one other
Speaker:one from my level 3's.
Speaker:I teach it.
Speaker:It's about...a parent
Speaker:got upset about this one.
Speaker:I'm like "Why are you
Speaker:teaching about online dating?"
Speaker:I said "I'm not
Speaker:teaching about online dating.
Speaker:I'm not teaching what
Speaker:not to do on the internet."
Speaker:Because this guy, he's online.
Speaker:He's got an online dating site.
Speaker:And I don't know if
Speaker:you've ever heard of...
Speaker:But we have one out here
Speaker:called farmersonly.com.
Speaker:And the kids all know the
Speaker:jingle for the farmersonly.com.
Speaker:And I know it ends with something like
Speaker:"You city folks just don't understand."
Speaker:Is the end of it.
Speaker:Find something on farmersonly.com.
Speaker:You city folks just don't understand.
Speaker:So that's the internet
Speaker:site that we put on there.
Speaker:But the kid gets catfished.
Speaker:There's this...that comes on.
Speaker:He's not a really
Speaker:good looking guy himself.
Speaker:So then we talk about the morals.
Speaker:He sends a fake picture.
Speaker:One of his cousins is
Speaker:much better looking.
Speaker:And then a rather ugly
Speaker:woman comes back as a picture.
Speaker:And we're like "Is that a real picture?"
Speaker:Or "Is that a fake picture?"
Speaker:They're like "Oh no, it's
Speaker:got to be a fake picture."
Speaker:Because if it was a real picture...
Speaker:It's got to be a real picture because she
Speaker:wouldn't put that
Speaker:picture out as a fake one.
Speaker:And it goes through the whole thing.
Speaker:And at the end we find out that he's
Speaker:being catfished by another guy.
Speaker:And he sent out this female there.
Speaker:And it's all about this warning about
Speaker:don't communicate with people that you
Speaker:don't know in person.
Speaker:Because you don't know who they are.
Speaker:I told the father, "It's a warning one.
Speaker:That's why I'm teaching it.
Speaker:It's in a funny way and
Speaker:less scary than it could be."
Speaker:But it's a funny way.
Speaker:And it's teaching them also about don't
Speaker:judge a book on its cover.
Speaker:Because this guy sent
Speaker:out a good looking picture.
Speaker:And she sent out what was not considered
Speaker:a good looking picture.
Speaker:And we made some good predictions.
Speaker:So that's another good
Speaker:one that I like doing.
Speaker:Just to teach them...
Speaker:I didn't design it to teach a lesson.
Speaker:I designed it because it was a funny one.
Speaker:And I knew that we could talk
Speaker:about all the morals about...
Speaker:Between judging someone by the cover.
Speaker:And then also about being honest.
Speaker:And then about who you meet.
Speaker:Because these kids friend
Speaker:anybody and anybody who says,
Speaker:"Let me be your friend on the Instagram."
Speaker:And whatever. All the
Speaker:different social medias.
Speaker:And so this is a safety one.
Speaker:It just turned out to be a really good
Speaker:one for that as well.
Speaker:So those are my top ones.
Speaker:Yeah, that reminds me of my autistic
Speaker:teacher friend again, Jeff Brown.
Speaker:So he's got a chart
Speaker:with how his brain works.
Speaker:It's like your brain
Speaker:working on a foreign language.
Speaker:Am I making appropriate gestures?
Speaker:Am I doing too much?
Speaker:Did I respond in a
Speaker:culturally appropriate way?
Speaker:He has to think about that
Speaker:every time he opens his mouth
Speaker:or enters the classroom.
Speaker:And you know you mentioned that Liz.
Speaker:I just watched a video yesterday.
Speaker:And it was, "How do you
Speaker:know your autistic if?"
Speaker:And I never thought about this.
Speaker:And he goes, he's from an autistic guy.
Speaker:He's got an autistic channel.
Speaker:And he says, "I never know
Speaker:how I should present myself
Speaker:in a room by myself."
Speaker:He goes, "I want to watch TV.
Speaker:Do I sit on the couch?
Speaker:Do I sit on the floor?
Speaker:Do I lie down?
Speaker:Which couch do I sit in?
Speaker:Which chair do I sit in?
Speaker:I don't have any social cues to help me."
Speaker:And he doesn't know.
Speaker:He goes, "I end up just standing and
Speaker:watching a whole TV show,
Speaker:standing up watching it because I don't
Speaker:know what to do with my body.
Speaker:I don't know what to do with my hands.
Speaker:I don't know what to do with my face."
Speaker:Because he's been taught as an autistic
Speaker:to kind of pay closer
Speaker:attention to social cues
Speaker:so that he can look, appear normal if
Speaker:there's even a word,
Speaker:if there's any normal in there.
Speaker:And he doesn't have any social cues.
Speaker:He says, "I don't have this problem when
Speaker:I have a friend over
Speaker:watching a movie because they
Speaker:sit down so then I sit down.
Speaker:They sit on the floor.
Speaker:I sit on the floor."
Speaker:Those kinds of things.
Speaker:He goes, "I don't know
Speaker:if I should have a snack
Speaker:or if I'm even allowed to have a snack."
Speaker:He goes, "This only
Speaker:happens to me when I'm by myself.
Speaker:And sometimes it takes me 15 to 20
Speaker:minutes just to even determine
Speaker:what I'm going to do before
Speaker:I can even watch the movie
Speaker:or the TV show or a video or
Speaker:whatever he's going to do."
Speaker:I thought that was very, very interesting
Speaker:because none of us think about that.
Speaker:I sit down on TV.
Speaker:I lie down because I like to lie down
Speaker:when I watch television.
Speaker:So that's what I do.
Speaker:I've done that since I was a kid.
Speaker:Another thing, going back to ESL,
Speaker:some cultures, kids are not supposed to
Speaker:look adults in the face, in the eyes.
Speaker:Those are all things you can talk about
Speaker:in the foreign language classroom
Speaker:and it's real language.
Speaker:It's useful and it's life skills.
Speaker:It is.
Speaker:I tell them about how
Speaker:the Colombians point.
Speaker:Colombians don't
Speaker:point with their fingers.
Speaker:They point with their lips.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So they'll go, "Look over there."
Speaker:And they do their
Speaker:gesturing with their lips.
Speaker:And then if someone goes
Speaker:to Colombia and sees it,
Speaker:they're like, "What is
Speaker:going on with their face?"
Speaker:And Americans just
Speaker:outright will say something.
Speaker:They won't keep to themselves.
Speaker:They will outright say something.
Speaker:And then you're like,
Speaker:"No, this is how they point.
Speaker:They don't do it with their fingers
Speaker:because that's rude,
Speaker:but this is how they do it."
Speaker:Or I explain to them, I told them about
Speaker:it because they always go,
Speaker:"Oh, I went to Disneyland."
Speaker:And they go, "All these Asian people,
Speaker:they keep cutting lines."
Speaker:And I'm like, "They
Speaker:don't realize that we cue.
Speaker:Not every culture lines up."
Speaker:And correct me if I'm
Speaker:wrong, but from my knowledge,
Speaker:my limited knowledge of Japanese culture,
Speaker:because there are so many people,
Speaker:they have the elevator and the subway or
Speaker:the train car pushers
Speaker:who push people in because they have to
Speaker:maximize all the space.
Speaker:And they don't cue up.
Speaker:They just get in how they are.
Speaker:And so it's very different.
Speaker:And they bring that culture over here,
Speaker:and you're going to go to some other
Speaker:place that doesn't line up,
Speaker:and you're going to be waiting in line,
Speaker:and you're going to be waiting forever
Speaker:because nobody's ever going to help you
Speaker:because they don't do
Speaker:that in their culture.
Speaker:And so you've got to
Speaker:look at it from a thing.
Speaker:They always say, "Do as Roman."
Speaker:"When in Rome, do as the Romans."
Speaker:But not everybody does that or
Speaker:even knows what they're doing
Speaker:is not culturally appropriate.
Speaker:And I find that very
Speaker:interesting to look at that.
Speaker:I saw another video and I had no idea.
Speaker:In Spain, they don't cue up either
Speaker:because I've been to Spain many times,
Speaker:but I've never had to
Speaker:line up for anything.
Speaker:If they're waiting for a prescription or
Speaker:something and they're going in,
Speaker:they don't line up.
Speaker:Everybody's sitting around, and you don't
Speaker:even know who's in line.
Speaker:But you go in, you
Speaker:ask, "Who's the last one?"
Speaker:You make note of who the person is, and
Speaker:when they go up, you know you're next.
Speaker:That means some people also will leave.
Speaker:If they know there's all
Speaker:these people in front of them,
Speaker:they'll go, "Okay, there's 15 people.
Speaker:The last person says it's me."
Speaker:And all the other people are still there.
Speaker:They know they've got 15 minutes.
Speaker:They might go to the next store, do
Speaker:something, and then come back.
Speaker:And they know they're
Speaker:still behind that person.
Speaker:It's not a line to get back in, like cut
Speaker:in line to get back where you were.
Speaker:It's just that that's how they do it.
Speaker:You can wait in line all you want.
Speaker:No one's going to help you that way.
Speaker:That's not how they do it.
Speaker:And I didn't know that.
Speaker:I just learned that
Speaker:about a month ago in Spain.
Speaker:I was watching a video about some
Speaker:cultural differences.
Speaker:You could use that in the classroom.
Speaker:Instead of going down the
Speaker:row, "Who's the next one?"
Speaker:They just keep trying.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So it's kind of these cultural things
Speaker:that you talk about,
Speaker:body language and cultural things.
Speaker:Culture is not just
Speaker:always about holidays and food.
Speaker:It's about ways of doing
Speaker:things, the way that they think,
Speaker:the way that they experience the world.
Speaker:And that's what I like
Speaker:teaching about a lot more.
Speaker:Many of you know I teach that
Speaker:multicultural class.
Speaker:We just started our third unit.
Speaker:And our third unit is school and being a
Speaker:teenager in other countries.
Speaker:And so the kids are learning
Speaker:all these different things.
Speaker:They're like, "The French
Speaker:have a two-hour lunch period?"
Speaker:What the heck with that?
Speaker:Lunch is important.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Food is an important
Speaker:part of French culture.
Speaker:They take their food seriously.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So there's that.
Speaker:Or the Koreans who go
Speaker:to school during the day
Speaker:and then go to school at night till 10
Speaker:o'clock at night afterwards.
Speaker:For Japanese too.
Speaker:Yeah, Japan too.
Speaker:And Japanese, we talk about
Speaker:them cleaning the classrooms.
Speaker:They have to keep the classrooms clean.
Speaker:Uh-huh.
Speaker:So these things are really different.
Speaker:And so they were...
Speaker:And we were talking about
Speaker:Kenyans who have to walk
Speaker:two or three miles each
Speaker:way to school every day,
Speaker:some up to 10 miles that they walk.
Speaker:And that's just part
Speaker:of their school days,
Speaker:to walk to school like that all the time.
Speaker:So we compared and compressed.
Speaker:We just started the unit the last week.
Speaker:But learning about these different ways
Speaker:and different approaches and why.
Speaker:And we keep going back to what is the
Speaker:same and what's different.
Speaker:And what can you tell about their values
Speaker:by doing some of these things.
Speaker:You know, the Japanese
Speaker:value of everybody contributes
Speaker:to the success of everything else.
Speaker:And that's why they're
Speaker:cleaning to keep the school...
Speaker:The classroom?
Speaker:Exactly.
Speaker:It's everyone's classroom.
Speaker:So everyone has a piece of the pie,
Speaker:kind of like classroom jobs, has a piece
Speaker:of pie and invested.
Speaker:That was the piece I needed
Speaker:when you convinced me
Speaker:to do classroom jobs.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. It makes a big difference.
Speaker:So I think those are
Speaker:actually more important for me
Speaker:to teach as culture than
Speaker:teaching holidays and food.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Mm-hmm.
Speaker:The reason why and
Speaker:where they're coming from.
Speaker:So I always approach culture as,
Speaker:"How can I make students not
Speaker:look like an idiotic American
Speaker:when they go to these countries?"
Speaker:And I'm not doing that to
Speaker:offend anybody who's American.
Speaker:I'm American, obviously.
Speaker:But we do do weird things
Speaker:because many of us, not all of us,
Speaker:many of us go to other countries
Speaker:expecting everything
Speaker:to be the way it is in America.
Speaker:And it's not.
Speaker:And it's obvious when
Speaker:they do because they're like,
Speaker:"Well, that's not how
Speaker:we do it in America,
Speaker:but you're not in America."
Speaker:Or they don't even take
Speaker:the time with a phrasebook
Speaker:or even Google Translate to be able to
Speaker:order what they want
Speaker:in the target language.
Speaker:They'll say, "I want a..."
Speaker:And I've seen people do
Speaker:that where they're pantomiming
Speaker:the animal that they want to eat.
Speaker:And I'm like, "Oh, my gosh.
Speaker:I know you're an American.
Speaker:You don't even have to tell me.
Speaker:I can tell it right now
Speaker:that you are an American."
Speaker:And that embarrasses me.
Speaker:You know, I tell my students,
Speaker:"This is one of the
Speaker:reasons why you need to study
Speaker:another language.
Speaker:Maybe you're not
Speaker:going to use the language.
Speaker:Maybe you're never going to go overseas.
Speaker:Maybe..."
Speaker:You know, whatever.
Speaker:But there's a lot of
Speaker:stuff we do in America
Speaker:that you have never thought about.
Speaker:And this will give you
Speaker:something to reflect back on.
Speaker:Why do we do the things we do?
Speaker:And not even that.
Speaker:They don't have to travel anymore.
Speaker:They don't have to
Speaker:because the world is so small.
Speaker:You can go on FaceTime
Speaker:and have someone in there.
Speaker:And business stuff.
Speaker:We're now doing more international
Speaker:business than we ever did.
Speaker:You know, Apple is an American company,
Speaker:but look at all the countries that
Speaker:contribute to making
Speaker:all the Apple products.
Speaker:Vietnam, China, Korea.
Speaker:They have to be able to
Speaker:communicate with these people.
Speaker:And you can't rely that
Speaker:they're all going to speak English.
Speaker:That's arrogance.
Speaker:So it's really important.
Speaker:You may never go to Spain
Speaker:or France or Japan or China.
Speaker:But you probably will
Speaker:have some kind of contact
Speaker:with someone who speaks that language.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And I just like to add.
Speaker:And this is culture that can be very different.
Speaker:Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:When students say in America, that's a
Speaker:teaching point for me.
Speaker:I never say in America unless I'm talking
Speaker:about all the Americas.
Speaker:I always, whether I'm speaking English or
Speaker:not, I say in the USA.
Speaker:I'll say, what?
Speaker:What do you mean?
Speaker:You know, are you talking
Speaker:about the United States?
Speaker:Because they're not aware
Speaker:that the rest of the world,
Speaker:my Ecuadorian mom, when she went to
Speaker:Spain, was introduced
Speaker:as their American friend.
Speaker:American, right.
Speaker:Canada is America.
Speaker:I talked about that too.
Speaker:The kids don't understand.
Speaker:They go, there is a word in
Speaker:Spanish that you are a USA in.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:You know, there is a specific word.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:There is a specific word because
Speaker:everybody on this hemisphere is American.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:It's just, are they North American?
Speaker:Or are they South American?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Uh-huh.
Speaker:And in Spanish, North and South America
Speaker:are considered one continent.
Speaker:There's a statue in Buenos Aires.
Speaker:It's a beautiful giant silver flower.
Speaker:It's got six petals, one for each
Speaker:continent, not seven.
Speaker:I didn't know that.
Speaker:That's interesting.
Speaker:I had no idea.
Speaker:I had no idea.
Speaker:That's interesting.
Speaker:But I go, and I also say that, you know,
Speaker:Mexico's in North America.
Speaker:They go, no, it's not.
Speaker:I'm like, yes, it is.
Speaker:Are you serious?
Speaker:There are three.
Speaker:Oh, no.
Speaker:Geography is a problem in my classroom.
Speaker:And we have a geography class.
Speaker:And I'm like, because one kid got Alaska
Speaker:and Antarctica mixed.
Speaker:I'm like, Antarctica
Speaker:is not even a country.
Speaker:It is a continent.
Speaker:A continent.
Speaker:And nobody owns Antarctica.
Speaker:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker:There's an international agreement that
Speaker:nobody can own Antarctica.
Speaker:It's its own continent all by itself.
Speaker:Right.
Speaker:And like, oh, I
Speaker:thought that was the state.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:And it's on opposite ends of the globe.
Speaker:And then I showed when I was talking
Speaker:about Deir Eirata last
Speaker:week and explaining the--
Speaker:I had to explain the whole-- all the way
Speaker:from the beginning, all
Speaker:the way to getting Columbus.
Speaker:And I'm showing the flat earth because I
Speaker:can't-- I don't have a globe.
Speaker:So I'm showing a Google
Speaker:image picture of the whole earth.
Speaker:They're like, oh, my gosh.
Speaker:Russia is so big.
Speaker:I'm like, well, it is big.
Speaker:It's the largest
Speaker:country in the world by area.
Speaker:But it's not that big.
Speaker:And only a few kids knew
Speaker:what I was talking about.
Speaker:When you flatten out the globe, it
Speaker:exaggerates the poles.
Speaker:And so Alaska is big too, but it's not as
Speaker:big as it shows on a flat map.
Speaker:And only a few of my kids knew this.
Speaker:I'm like, what?
Speaker:This is common stuff.
Speaker:I thought.
Speaker:I mean, I learned this.
Speaker:I remember in middle school.
Speaker:This is what makes foreign language
Speaker:teaching so awesome.
Speaker:We can talk about anything.
Speaker:Look at all the
Speaker:topics we've covered today.
Speaker:Everything from online
Speaker:danger to Antarctica.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Or here's the best one.
Speaker:Because I'm doing the same thing.
Speaker:I say, why going around the Horn of
Speaker:Africa, it was so dangerous back then.
Speaker:Partly because two oceans
Speaker:meet right there as well.
Speaker:And they're like, well, they don't mix.
Speaker:I'm like, no, they don't mix.
Speaker:They're like, what do
Speaker:you mean they don't mix?
Speaker:It's like it's like oil and water.
Speaker:They don't mix.
Speaker:And you can go that there's a temperature
Speaker:gradient difference.
Speaker:And there's a salinity variant
Speaker:difference and they don't mix.
Speaker:And they're like, really?
Speaker:I like and I showed pictures and you can
Speaker:see the different colors where they meet.
Speaker:They don't mix.
Speaker:And there's a white line that happened to
Speaker:go in one of the pictures I had.
Speaker:And the fish goes,
Speaker:who drew the chalk line?
Speaker:I'm like, nobody.
Speaker:Nobody drew the chalk line.
Speaker:That's just where the water's breaking
Speaker:and how it turns white when the waves go.
Speaker:You know, and they're like,
Speaker:can fish swim across that?
Speaker:Yes, fish can swim across it.
Speaker:Their bodies adjust to the different
Speaker:temperatures and different salinities.
Speaker:You can sail right across.
Speaker:But temperature is one of
Speaker:the big factors of weather.
Speaker:And this differential causes a whole
Speaker:bunch of weather phenomena that happened
Speaker:that make it very dangerous.
Speaker:That's why Christopher Columbus was
Speaker:looking to go the other way around.
Speaker:It was supposed to be safer
Speaker:and supposed to be quicker.
Speaker:He just didn't know that whole landmass
Speaker:was right there in his way.
Speaker:So, yes, we get to talk
Speaker:about a whole lot of stuff.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Well, with that, we went to our hour and
Speaker:a half, which has
Speaker:been our standard lately.
Speaker:We're going to have to make it a goal to
Speaker:be like 45 minutes, then we only go like
Speaker:an hour and five minutes.
Speaker:Then we go to an hour.
Speaker:But we do talk about a lot of stuff.
Speaker:We did.
Speaker:We kind of have to be experts
Speaker:at a lot of different things.
Speaker:We do. We have to wear a lot of different
Speaker:hats in our classes.
Speaker:And I like just before I'm going to start
Speaker:a whole other topic.
Speaker:But I also, when I don't know something,
Speaker:I let them know I don't know something.
Speaker:I look it up.
Speaker:Yes, I think that's good modeling.
Speaker:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker:Which I'm doing with German.
Speaker:In my multicultural class, a kid brought
Speaker:up and said, "Why are they
Speaker:fighting in France right now?"
Speaker:I'm like, "They're fighting in France?"
Speaker:I didn't know that because what I have
Speaker:been obsessed with news-wise lately was
Speaker:the poor man who passed away from the
Speaker:roller coaster accident.
Speaker:And we had a shooting in Oregon.
Speaker:The school's shooting in Oregon.
Speaker:So that's where my mind has been going.
Speaker:And I didn't know that France was having
Speaker:a big-- now it's in
Speaker:my newsfeed a lot more.
Speaker:They're always fighting in France.
Speaker:I know, but it's really bad right now.
Speaker:It's really-- I mean, they burn down
Speaker:buildings and art and
Speaker:huge things. It's bad.
Speaker:So I looked it up.
Speaker:And so right in front of the students, I
Speaker:said, "I don't know. Let's
Speaker:find out why they're fighting."
Speaker:And so we looked it up right away to see
Speaker:why they're fighting.
Speaker:It started by high schoolers who were
Speaker:fighting about education, about the
Speaker:shortage of teachers and
Speaker:stuff going on in France.
Speaker:What's more relevant than that?
Speaker:Yeah. So it worked.
Speaker:You know, we talked about that and we
Speaker:learned because guess what?
Speaker:We were also talking about school that
Speaker:week as my multicultural class.
Speaker:So it was-- we were learning about--
Speaker:It fits right in.
Speaker:It fits right in, exactly.
Speaker:So with that, does anybody have any
Speaker:parting things they would like to say?
Speaker:I just want to say thank you so much.
Speaker:This has been so much
Speaker:fun. I could go on forever.
Speaker:We all could go on
Speaker:forever. We're all talkers.
Speaker:So we all could go on forever.
Speaker:And you're welcome to join us again.
Speaker:I know we're--
Speaker:Please do.
Speaker:We are booked. We have guests all the way
Speaker:through to December.
Speaker:I think we have like two episodes left.
Speaker:So we have got guests all
Speaker:the way through November.
Speaker:And I believe it's December that we are
Speaker:lacking for this season before we end.
Speaker:Because this season ends--
Speaker:let me get my calendar here.
Speaker:We're going to end this season on--
Speaker:The 13th of December.
Speaker:December 20th.
Speaker:No, December 20th.
Speaker:Oh, do we have one December 20th?
Speaker:Okay, so it's December 20th.
Speaker:Yeah, I want that up to 50 here.
Speaker:Okay, so December 20th.
Speaker:And we have nobody for the
Speaker:6th, the 13th, and the 20th.
Speaker:So those are our three dates.
Speaker:Then we'll take a month off and then
Speaker:we'll come back in
Speaker:January, the end of January.
Speaker:And we'll have season number six.
Speaker:I can't believe I've
Speaker:done six seasons already.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So you're welcome to
Speaker:join us back again, Liz.
Speaker:We love having you in your Insight with
Speaker:your multitude of languages
Speaker:and being a Heritage speaker as well.
Speaker:That also brings another Insight in, so
Speaker:we'd love to have you back.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:Thank you so much. It would be my honor.
Speaker:You're welcome.
Speaker:So everybody, that is episode number 43.
Speaker:Thank you for spending your Sunday
Speaker:defending video-based teaching
Speaker:alongside three people who
Speaker:absolutely had a movie talk day,
Speaker:and they were like, "Blop in real time,
Speaker:like that day I first did.
Speaker:Oh my gosh. Just play the video."
Speaker:Liz, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker:30 years in the classroom
Speaker:across Spanish and Japanese
Speaker:and a multitude of other languages,
Speaker:and now teaching adults who
Speaker:actually choose to be there,
Speaker:that perspective is exactly what this
Speaker:conversation needed.
Speaker:If you're looking for private lessons in
Speaker:Spanish, French, Italian, or Japanese,
Speaker:go find Liz at Hira Sol Languages.
Speaker:Pamela, thank you
Speaker:especially for admitting on air,
Speaker:which completely bombed for you. Why?
Speaker:That kind of honesty is why people
Speaker:actually trust this show.
Speaker:So if you need the
Speaker:framework for telling input-rich
Speaker:from just filling time or an
Speaker:answer ready for the next person
Speaker:who assumes it's a free day because
Speaker:you're showing a video,
Speaker:you got it today.
Speaker:Subscribe, leave a review, and send this
Speaker:one to the teacher in your building
Speaker:who's scared to try movie
Speaker:talk because they're worried
Speaker:it'll look like slacking off.
Speaker:It won't. If you do it,
Speaker:right? And now they know how.
Speaker:Catch us live on YouTube or find the
Speaker:replay on your favorite podcast app.
Speaker:Ditch the drills, trust the process, and
Speaker:we'll see you next
Speaker:time on Comprehend This.
Speaker:Goodbye everybody.
Speaker:Thanks for joining us. Salud.
